Help with my Barleywine

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  1. WelshBrewer

    WelshBrewer Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2013 Oregon

    I think if the wort is diluted to 1.040 or less or if it started at that or less you would be fine and actually increase the viable yeast.
    Like I said earlier I made a starter using US-05 and it went nuts, and it worked really well, but I wont do it again.
     
  2. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    Rehydrating with 1.040 wort is not going to increase the amount of viable yeast. I imagine 1.040 is better that 1.060, but you're still killing a large percentage of the yeast.

    http://koehlerbeer.wordpress.com/2008/06/07/rehydrating-dry-yeast-with-dr-clayton-cone/
     
  3. WelshBrewer

    WelshBrewer Initiate (0) Mar 17, 2013 Oregon

    The article says nothing about wort killing cells it just says they don't recommend it unless it is very diluted.
    It also says 95-105 degrees is typical rehydrate temp, where Fermentis says 80 deg for US-05, and since ive done both and had optimal results ill take the article with a grain of salt.
     
  4. ericj551

    ericj551 Pooh-Bah (1,638) Apr 29, 2004 Canada (AB)
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    The article mentions sugar, a major component of wort, killing cells. I wouldn't call 1.040 very diluted wort. I'm not saying you can't make great beer without rehydrating, but if you calculate a pitch rate, then kill half your cells, you're not pitching what you think.
     
  5. Carrigan

    Carrigan Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2014 Virginia

    Thanks for the advice. It must have been a combination of a slight leak and a slow start bc of how big the beer is. I pitched some 05 at 48 hrs anyways just in case. there is still a slow leak and I can't get it to seal completely but I'm not to worried anymore. There is a very nice boozy smell filling the room.


    Semper Brewdelis
     
  6. GoldenChild

    GoldenChild Pundit (843) Nov 18, 2009 Michigan

    Yeah I have four buckets that I use all the time and I've never not once seen my airlock bubble. The leaks are OK though because of the CO2 pushing out. When I use my better bottles I always have lots of airlock activity. Enjoy your beer.
     
  7. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    That's great, but rehydrating dry yeast in wort still kills half of it, and therefore is not a good way to increase yeast cell count/viability.
     
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  8. Mag00n

    Mag00n Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2008 New York

    :sunglasses:
     
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  9. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    But did you win because you rehydrated in wort, or in spite of it? It's hard to imagine that there is some advantage to killing about 1/2 the cells. If there is, I'd like to hear the theory behind it.
     
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  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I see what you did there.
     
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  11. mikehartigan

    mikehartigan Maven (1,421) Apr 9, 2007 Illinois

    I don't believe there is an advantage to killing half the cells. But, given that a single packet of dry yeast contains waaaaaay more cells than you need, there's no clear advantage to not killing them. Experience seems to support that opinion. If the round-trip to work takes 2 gallons of gas, having 5 in the tank will not get you there any faster or more efficiently than 3. It only buys you peace of mind.
     
  12. steve8robin

    steve8robin Maven (1,272) Nov 7, 2009 Massachusetts
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    This. I've had this happen before and I changed the airlock and the new airlock bubbled away. Threw away the bad airlock. If no activity soon, I'd try switching out the airlock.
     
  13. Carrigan

    Carrigan Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2014 Virginia

    Its been 8 days in primary and I will keep there for another week. Its still doing work, with 44 healthy bubbles per minute. My OG was 1.105 and right now my gravity is 1.032. This is going to be a killer beer.
     
  14. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Be patient, man, be patient! You're still getting good bubbling activity, so there is no need to be taking a gravity reading at this point. Your 'killer beer' may get sick. I think you're going to need to wait up to two weeks before your next gravity reading as long as those bubbles keep burping. :slight_frown:
     
  15. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Proof Brewing?
     
  16. premierpro

    premierpro Savant (1,060) Mar 21, 2009 Michigan

    Paitience Grass Hopper! There is no reason to rush a big beer. I am not a fan of drinking big beers before they have a year of age on them. ( Even though I have been guilty of sneeking a few!)
     
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  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    You actually sat there and counted the bubbles in a minute?

    I'd let a big beer sit around atleast 4 weeks. You want it to ferment completely out.
     
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