Fruit Beer Test Batches

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  1. DaveOrlowski

    DaveOrlowski Zealot (560) Mar 11, 2014 Wisconsin
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    So I’m looking to make a 5 gallon batch of wheat beer and want to secondary it in 5 one gallon jugs. Adding a different fruit to each. Blueberry, Orange, Raspberry, Peach and Cherry. This is my first attempt at using fruit in beer. Any tips or tricks on how to prepare the fruit so I don't get nasties growing in my beer! Also, any thoughts on the amount/type of fruit would be great too! Thanks and if all goes well my next test will be brewing an ipa with 5 different dry hops.
     
  2. GatorBeer

    GatorBeer Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 South Carolina

    Dice and freeze. Use more fruit then you think you're going to need.
     
  3. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington


    agree with above and I'll add

    blueberry - cook it to help retain some flavor, otherwise all you really get is color

    orange
    - will add sourness and not much lasting flavor, best way to get an orangey flavor is orange blossom water ( a little goes a long, long, long way)

    raspberry
    - good choice, dont need much in a batch to have a nice flavor, i usually shoot for around 16oz in a 5gal batch of saison for beer that has raspberry flavor, but doesnt taste like juice

    peach
    - use white variety, fresh and very ripe, even then flavor is fleeting

    cherry
    - another good choice, a mix of sour cherries(montmorency) and a small amount of black cherries is a good choice
     
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  4. DaveOrlowski

    DaveOrlowski Zealot (560) Mar 11, 2014 Wisconsin
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    Thanks for the great info! No need to pasturize the fruits by heating them to 160F for some period of time? Just dice, freeze, and add to the fermenter?
     
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  5. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I like your ambition. I would personally recommend making 4 different kinds of fruit beer and keep a gallon of your original beer. This will be a base beer in case the fruit is to predominant in any of your gallons. I made a boysenberry wheat beer 2 years ago. It was like a cocktail instead of a beer. It was poor measuring on my part.
     
  6. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    On a sidenote: Most beers take 1 to 2 pounds of fruit per gallon of beer. Regardless of what you're going to do do, you'll need 6 gallon growlers for 5 gal of beer, since the fruit will take up a substantial amount of space at the bottom of each gallon growler. The type of beer has a big impact on how much you'll need and the type of fruit you use will have a big impact on how much you'll need. With a light beer like this you'll probably shoot for a pound per gallon. As said above, raspberries are potent.
     
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  7. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    What do people pay for raspberries in their area? I usually see 12oz cartons for like 5/6 bucks. Seems like quite the expensive addition when you are talking a pound per gallon.
     
  8. Mag00n

    Mag00n Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2008 New York


    Try a farmers market or getting the berrys 'in season'(whenever that is for rasp). The price diff is usually pretty substantial. Most grocery stores also sell frozen rasps for fairly cheap just make sure they dont have any sugar added ( a lot of them DO)
     
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  9. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Yep. They're never cheap around here. They're very delicate and hard to ship. It's typical to see them sold around here in 6 oz plastic containers for about 2 to 3 bucks--even through the summer.
     
  10. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    It's debatable whether fruit bears so-called 'nasties.'
    No doubt some can and do, such as the wild yeast found thick-skin fruits; however, most probably do not.

    There's tension between a 'better-safe-than-sorry' philosophy v. beer's low pH is an inhospitable environment for nasties so DWHAHB.

    BSTS techniques include pasteurizing, blanching, Campden tab de-yeastifying, and sanitizing.
    Despite the shockingly stoopit advice profferd in the current BYO, raspberries should not be blanched or sanitized. Save that method for fruits with a skin...right?

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    How much Blueberry, Orange, Raspberry, Peach and Cherry?
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    WalMarti Peruvian frozen raspberries are reasonably priced and always in season.
     
  11. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    For raspberries you dont need anywhere near 1lb/gal

    I wasnt kidding when I said all I use in a 5gal saison is 16oz, at that amt they are noticeable but not the dominant flavor (fruit beer should still taste like beee)
     
  12. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    Anyone ever read anything on preparing fruit by mixing with edible acid soln, like phosphoric
    For the orange blossom water, what's the ratio per gallon of wort you've used?
     
  13. ryane

    ryane Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2007 Washington

    Ive seen recipes posted that use 6oz in 5gal, personally I dont understand how they could use that much, taste buds destroyed? They want an over the top, punch you in the gut floral orange flavor that completely hides/destroyes the base beer flavor? I dunno, people do weird things, and make "beers" that dont taste like beer anymore

    Personally I'd start in the 1.0mL/batch range and go from there, its potent stuff and can ruin a beer (very quickly) if too much is used
     
  14. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    A raspberry addiition of 1#/G falls on the light end of the spectrum compared to other fruits such as strawberries (2-5#/G) and cherries (2-4#/G).

    Suggestions for fruit additions at lower rates are outliers.
     
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