Beer and weight loss

After watching Fat, Sick and Nearly Dead on Netflix, I am very shortly going to begin a juice fast for 30 days... No brews for a month... This from someone who enjoys em every day... I'm going to miss the beer more than I am the food...

 

Doctors aren't trained in nutrition. They follow the advice of nutritionists, who are, in turn, often mislead by big pharma and big agra (and their junk science "studies") in order to sell their respective products.

 

No you can't. The calorie counters on those things are horribly inaccurate, and you've fallen into the trap most people do by overestimating energy expenditure.

 

'cause the doctor will just tell us to stop drinking. pfft, what do they know?

I think he was joking about that.

 

Funny this thread popped up. I just started Weight Watchers on Monday. I had a 22 oz of a local IPA on Tuesday. Drinking a 22 oz of a local stout tonight. Counting it as 15 points which is probably pretty close. I haven't exceeded my points any of the days so we will see how it goes.

 

I generally find this conspiracy to be cooked up by quacks who use it to sell their own "health" products which don't work, whether it's Head On, Chinese Herbs, the Hollywood Diet, or Cherokee Hair Tampons.

 

I both agree, and disagree with you. There are quacks out there. But on the other hand, when it comes to convention wisdom's health/nutrition paradigm, science doesn't back up most of the claims.

 

Shit it works for me along with lifting and some running I'm in damn good shape.

 

No it is calories in vs. calories out. It's simple science.

You can lose weight on a diet of beer and pizza, as long as the calories consumed is less than what you burn. Conversely, you can gain weight on a diet of egg whites, salads, grilled chicken breast, veggies, etc. For example, Google IIFYM (If It Fits Your Macros) as a way of eating.

Exercise helps to increase calorie expenditure, which will let you consume more food and alcohol. Personally, on days I plan to drink multiple beers, I make sure I get in at the minimum, an intense leg workout that day. I also reduce carbs throughout the day and make sure I eat good quality proteins and fats to ensure I don't begin drinking while hungry, which we all know can lead to poor eating decisions.

 

No, he was right in saying it depends on what source you're getting you're food energy from. Carbohydrates tend to make your body store weight. Glucose, on one hand, is rather benign up to a point. Fructose, on the other hand, screws with your body's hormones, causing all sorts of damage to your health, and getting fat is only the tip of the iceberg. High fructose consumption can cause similar effects as alcoholism. Sugar has been know for a long time to cause metabolic disorder, since at least 150-200 years.

When you eat fat (saturated, mono-unsaturated, and omega-3 poly-unsaturated), your body tends to use fat as energy, thereby auto-regulating both body fat levels and blood sugar.

And for what it's worth, as far as expending energy goes, exercising hardy does shit. Most of it depends on your diet, and the nutrients you consume. Your hunger will adjust itself to your activity. Hence "auto-regulation".

 

It's simple, but it isn't science. do the research.

 

and beer calories (fermented grains) aren't as bad as Burger King but the message is clear and you canfeel whe it's violated

 

the truth is maybe you can lose weight on beer and pizza and maybe someone else can't. a calorie in your mouth doesn't equal a calorie assimilated. the way your body assimilates food has tons of variables, and only some of them are understood. current data strongly suggests that the bacteria in your intestines make a very big difference in how you utilize calories. calories in vs. calories out in the simplest possible way is true, because you can't create or destroy energy, and we're organotrophs but "calories in" in that sense are not the same as the calories you put in your mouth

 

Name me ONE thing grains do for you that any other vegetable (and meat/organ meats, for that matter) can't do better.

 

that's a hard comparison to make and it probably depends on who you are.

 

I'd bet my life you're in your early 20's and your only believe this nonsense because you have a young man's metabolism.

 

I've lost over 120 pounds in the past couple years (275 - 155) completely and solely by counting calories. Only recently have I converted to eating healthier foods. Partly because of the amount of drinking that I do, and partly because I need to take care of myself in one manner if I'm going to hurt myself in another.

I ate greasy hamburgers, pizza, french fries, and anything else I wanted, just counted the calories. It's not hard.

 

You can lose weight and still drink beer but it is a pain in the ass.

When I drink I want to make sure I eat and that usually means carb layered foods. The more beer you drink the more your body craves bad calories...all calories are not created the same.

If you are drinking good craft beers that have 200 calories and up per beer and 15/20 carbs and up...you will be working against everything you are trying to accomplish. Good beer along with bad food does not equate to weight loss.

Simple math...eat healthy, exercise, burn more calories than you take in and you will lose weight. Throw in a light BMC occasionally (light calories, carbs and taste) and you will still lose weight. After you lose the weight it will be much easier to control and you will be able to experiment with the beers you drink but it will always be the same ratio...calories in, calories out, exercise and foods.

For reference I am 49 and exercise several times a week, am very active and have been drinking for 30 years. I'm about 165 and will slide 15/20 pounds in either direction. If I'm not diligent with my food, exercise and quantity of beers I only slide up

 

I'm on a 1600 calorie diet. It sucks but beer is my reward. Coffee and a breakfast bar in the morning, tuna kit at lunch and Mac and cheese hotdog type stuff for dinner. I run, and that allows me to drink. I don't drink a lot, just savor a good IPA. Gone from 215 to 203 in three three weeks. All while drinking nugget nectar, Jai alai, stone etc. I am still drinking beer I love, you just got to watch the intake. I recommend my fitness pal. It's free and most beers are on there.

 

so 25?