Unfiltered yeast = off flavors?

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  1. fox227

    fox227 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 California

    Last few times I had Port's Mongo and Wipeout, I usually share half of it, and I give myself the second half, and I always pour the yeast at the bottom into the glass. I can see why this hinders the appearance of the beer, but I actually enjoy the taste more. I even taste the two pours side by side and I prefer the one with the yeast by far. I have heard so many warnings to NOT to this. Am I crazy on this?
     
  2. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “Am I crazy on this?” No.

    Drinking the yeast is a matter of personal preference. You prefer to drink the yeast. Other folks prefer to not drink the yeast. To each their own.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. gustogasmic

    gustogasmic Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2012 Michigan

    It's got laxative powers...
     
  4. El_Zilcho

    El_Zilcho Initiate (0) May 3, 2012 Virginia

    I think I usually prefer to drink the yeast. Even if I do decide to leave it in the bottle, I usually swirl it a little bit to get some of it mixed in. I've never done a side by side comparison though, now that's gonna be like the next thing I do.
     
  5. GWTW

    GWTW Zealot (589) May 19, 2011 Florida
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    I save a little beer in the bottle with the yeast, and then, with a little beer left in the glass, I swirl the bottle, pour, and drink. I enjoy the yeast flavors, some more than others. Hey, chemists, does the flavor of yeast become affected with age, as in hops?
     
  6. Tukee

    Tukee Devotee (387) Aug 1, 2009 Arizona

    It can cause gastro issues for some people. As for flavor, I find that I like it for some beers but not for others. No standard answer on this one...
     
  7. HopsJunkiedotcom

    HopsJunkiedotcom Initiate (0) Dec 24, 2010 Florida

    I'm a homebrewer, so yeah yeast it is for me.

    "If God wanted us to filter our beer, he wouldn't have given us livers" :-)
     
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  8. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Yes, the yeast actually absorb alot of the hop oils and alpha acids into their cell walls, which is part of the reason why yeast in IPA's can taste so good, because it's been a sponge of hoppiness! Moreover, because the yeast are alive and working, they can actually continue to ferment the beer slowly and clean up any impurities like diacetyl. Some yeasts like brettanomyces can actually sour a beer over time by consuming sugars and fermenting them to lactic acid. A good example is Orval, which is only bottled conditioned with brett, which over time imparts a musty, slightly tart character to the beer
     
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  9. lotsaswigs

    lotsaswigs Initiate (0) Jan 24, 2006 Michigan

    No, not at all. I personally almost always add the yeast, and I've found that beers from certain breweries, like Bell's, are much better in my opinion with the yeast than without it. Some stouts in particular don't come off near as thick and chewy (which I like) without the yeast...

    When labels explicitly state not to disturb the yeast when pouring, like with many Blegians, I generally won't pour it in in that case but will often go ahead and pour the goodies in when the glass is almost empty just to see the difference.

    It's personal preference, but in my experience and for my tastes it's yeast all the way!
     
  10. GWTW

    GWTW Zealot (589) May 19, 2011 Florida
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    Thanks much for your time and info. I'm just back from Wikipedia after reading about brett. A lot went over my head, but the yeast will continue to go into my belly. Now and then, I have an especially delicious taste from the yeast in Shoals Pale. Smuttynose seems to really emphasize the yeast factor in taste. But, that's just me.
     
  11. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    yea I just drain pour the last ounce with the yeast in it. My digestive system was all messed up after I poured the yeast from Rochefort 6 into my glass (then proceded to drink it). I even did that with Consecration, Cantillon Classic, and Girardin 1882; just a habit.
     
  12. mintjellie

    mintjellie Initiate (0) Oct 2, 2005 Canada (ON)

    I always pour the sediment into my glass with the beer.
     
  13. fox227

    fox227 Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2010 California

    Thanks for this. This must be why I find it to be important to the IPA style.
     
  14. Soonami

    Soonami Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2008 Pennsylvania

    Also, a note for the homebrewers out there, this is also a reason why most books advise you to transfer IPA's and to secondary before dry hopping because the yeast will pull out a lot of the hoppiness in the beer. This is especially true for those that bottle condition and don't pour the yeast into the glass. For those that keg, this is less of an issue because you can always dry hop in the keg.
     
  15. jzeilinger

    jzeilinger Grand High Pooh-Bah (8,847) Dec 4, 2004 Pennsylvania
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    Personal preference...it's all good.
     
  16. djsmith1174

    djsmith1174 Savant (1,015) Aug 21, 2005 Minnesota

    I always drink the yeast sediment. I think it makes a difference in the flavor profile too, so it seems essential to me.
     
  17. keithmurray

    keithmurray Pooh-Bah (2,967) Oct 7, 2009 Connecticut
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    I usually drink it but sometimes you gotta be careful especially with beer near or past its best by date. I once drank a Vitus that was past its best by date, and that shit really did a number on my intestinal system, so just be weary of it.
     
  18. fishtremble

    fishtremble Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Michigan

    Sure nice to see I am not in the minority. I almost always drink the yeast but everyone around me at home thinks it is gross (I guess it does look that way). I think the flavor contained in the yeast is probably the best part of the beer for me.
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “I once drank a Vitus that was past its best by date, and that shit really did a number on my intestinal system, so just be weary of it.” Old bottles are not really the ‘issue’ here but really the opposite. Live yeast in your GI tract is what causes problems in the intestinal system so a fresh bottle (which has more live yeast) is likely to cause more problems.

    Some folks are ‘affected’ by the live yeast while others seem to be unaffected. Live yeast has an affect on me. I am a homebrewer (homebrew has lots of live yeast) and I limit the amount of homebrewed beer that I drink.

    Also, live yeast is in suspension in the unfiltered beer. The sediment on the bottom of the bottle is a combination of dead and ‘sleeping’ yeast, So, even if you avoid drinking the sediment of unfiltered beer you are still consuming live yeast which can affect your GI tract.

    Cheers!
     
  20. GWTW

    GWTW Zealot (589) May 19, 2011 Florida
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    And, if you add to the mix a beef burrito and some refried beans, the barroom goes barrrroooooom!
     
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