Berliner time.. Bring me your best.

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  1. trevord13

    trevord13 Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2010 Virginia

    Ready to put my second batch on raspberries Saturday. Is there anything else I can do in the secondary to add more complexity? The base beer is great, just trying to change the second run up a little bit.
     
  2. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Brett would funk it up.
     
  3. trevord13

    trevord13 Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2010 Virginia

    Just pitch it in the secondary for 2 weeks with the fruit?
     
  4. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    The calculating abv thing has me a little bit confused. If I'm understanding this correctly the lacto eats some sugar, thus stripping away some of your OG. However , you can't really tell what the actual OG is because the lactic acid weighs more than the sugars? So basically there is no real way of telling what you are working with in terms of fermentable sugar ? You guys just making a guesstimate ?
     
  5. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    If you are boiling it after souring the wort, then take a post boil gravity reading. The alcohol will be boiled away if any was made, and that'll be your starting point, and then take an FG after fermenting it out.
     
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  6. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    I'm having dejavu. Thanks again
     
  7. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    No, not really. You are correct in that it's a bit of a different animal once the lacto goes at your wort first. Mine was all screwed up until I asked, and then researched it a bit. It'll change, as you probably have some wild yeast going at it too.

    That said, ultimately, it doesn't matter, as you'll boil, start from the top again, regardless of what changed and have a OG to work with once you chill the wort like normal.
     
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  8. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Ready to let this puppy rip tonight
     
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  9. daves1186

    daves1186 Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2011 Pennsylvania

    Hey everyone.

    I've been following this thread since the beginning and all the great info here really convinced me it's about time for me to try to brew my own Berliner Weisse this Sunday even though I'm fairly new to homebrewing, this will be my fourth brew. I'm going to go with the souring the wort technique but I have a few questions before I go ahead with it and I was hoping someone here could look over the recipe I came up with and offer up some changes or suggestions if needed. I saw earlier in this thread that psnydez suggested getting your wort to around 4.5 and I'm a little confused by this. I know when mashing you want to keep your ph between 5.2-5.6 so I'm assuming he's talking about when I start souring the wort? If that's the case do I just test the ph after I pitch the grains and then add lactic acid until I reach a ph of around 4.5, is there any guidelines I should follow for this or just add maybe an 1/8 of a teaspoon at a time? Also should I acidify my sparge water my water ph is 6.9? I'm pretty excited to finally brew a berliner since one of the main reasons I started homebrewing was to brew a berliner after having my first one at a brew fest last summer. Here's my tentative recipe any critiques would be welcomed.
    http://www.brewersfriend.com/homebrew/recipe/view/132668/berliner-weisse
     
  10. Theortiz01

    Theortiz01 Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2013 Texas

    Just did a BW last night and doing the sour wort method. My OG was a little low, so I gonna add some fermentables. For this beer, which would be better, regular sugar or light DME during the boil? Thanks
     
  11. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I'd say DME. You want a dry beer, but you aren't looking for alcohol.. unless you just want a boozy berliner, but that seems kind of counter-intuitive.
     
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  12. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Whirfloc or not?
     
  13. jono0101

    jono0101 Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2011 Missouri

    Looks like mine is ready to bottle today. I took a gravity reading, and it was down to 1.008. Tastes great, still doesn't smell the greatest though, hopefully I can fix that for next time.
     
  14. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    I didn't use any, but I don't see it hurting. The wheat will leave it a bit hazy, but in the past near the end of the keg, mine have cleared up pretty darn well.
     
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  15. Theortiz01

    Theortiz01 Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2013 Texas

    Check my sour wort today. My god, that is one of the most vile odors I've ever smelled. And being a firefighter, I've had to deal with some pretty foul odors before. I hope this works because I'm not convinced yet.
     
  16. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Mine was only 1.024 because my chiller had a leak. Hello hose water. Still no fermentation 18 hours later. Ugh.
     
  17. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Relax. The low pH from the lacto has the yeast freaking the hell out trying to get going. It could take a little while longer, but it will roll on.
     
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  18. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    What are you souring in? If it's really vomit-shit smelling, you might not be in for a better outcome. You want the keep the oxygen as close to nothing as possible if you can. Use co2, plastic wrap, seltzer water, or top of to the neck of a carboy to minimize it.
     
  19. Theortiz01

    Theortiz01 Initiate (0) Jun 7, 2013 Texas

    Used a 5 gallon cooler with grains and then seran wrap on top of it, then sealed. Gonna wait it out for a couple of days, boil it and taste it to see if its worth saving.
     
  20. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    Cranking now. Probably started in 24-30 hours later. Not so bad

    I used a combo of both, adding it now
     
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