Blatant Brewing Comes Clean About Bad Batch

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Why even bring the product to market? Did they not try it beforehand and say "this is off"?

 

That's a separate question that they should definitely answer. I'm not defending Blatant for releasing it, just defending Blatant for publicly blaming Paper City.

 

Awesome thread on many levels, I would read it again....

 

The brewer, Matt Steinberg just posted this:

 

Almost. I want to hear about if PC wasn't capable of handling the hops for the beer (mentioned in a previous post, but not recently), and I want to hear what makes this batch sub-par.

 

Best way to get that answer is to post here: https://www.facebook.com/BlatantBrewery

 

No doubt, this thread is most definitely delivering.

 

Interesting how initially, it sounds like (according to Steinberg) Paper City "wasn't able to handle the hops"... in a hoppy but not DIPA-hoppy IPA. Which sounds... suspect.

Then, it's a capacity issue.

Was it issues with the hops, or capacity?

And yeah... given the time frame... releasing the beer is pretty shady. If there was no sampling to determine quality, that's slack. If there was sampling, then releasing the beer anyway... slack and shady.

A BLATANT lack of QC?

 

As someone ago makes a living managing subcontracts, I think I can add a bit to the conversation.

I will preface my comments by stating that Matt is a great guy & brewer. However, his blame of his contractor (PC) for a sub-par product to the public is poor form. I think Matt will be the 1st to realize that he (Blatant) is fully responsible for his product regardless of which subcontractors he uses. PC isn't mentioned on the label & quite frankly his choice of contractors is none of my business. As a customer I will decide whether his end product is worthy.

I realize in today 's social media age it 's easy to think that Facebook postings are simple bar-room talk. However, he really seems to be hanging his contractor out to dry in public & that 's patently unfair. Matt probably meant well, but when dealing with subcontractor relations, the less said publicly is usually better.

That said, I like Matt 's beers & will continue to be a customer. Let 's hope he keeps his contractor dealings private in the future.

 

Just the mention is enough though. The perception of blame is certainly there.

All I'm saying is that a vague statement would 've been far better.

 

Oh snap ... I forgot to put my purple dinosaur suit on.

If my intention was to destroy Paper City's credibility you would have seen it and they would not be at ACBF. Just repeating what I have heard directly from other brewers and not knocking Paper City's beers which I like BTW.

 

Blatant IPA and Wormtown Be Hoppy were new to me at the same time. After tasting them once each I thought they were both really welcome additions to the Boston (Mass) beer scene. Now after tasting both multiple times, and sending a bottle of each to about 5 of my regular trading partners.... it obvious which is a superior IPA.

I'll be buying Wormtown Be Hoppy from here on out. The alternative is to keep paying for Blatant and hoping it gets better? I think not.

 

Interestingly enough, Paper City just bought Syracuse based Landmark Beer Company.

http://blog.syracuse.com/cny/2012/0...nd_inks_distribution_deal_ithaca_expands.html

 

In craft beer though, it's not really that simple is it? For various reasons, some more sensible than others, people like to know not only who brews their beer, but where.

 

I'm in full agreement. At this point they were just playing firefighter.
Bridge = burnt

 

In what way did he take responsibility for said problem? Did he keep the product off the market? Did he offer refunds? Did he recall the beer?

 

I had it on tap @ Hobo on Saturday, I was drunk but it tasted fine to me. I've had it in the past and it was similar in quality.

Burnt bridge would come from publicly implying that Pioneer had something to do w/ the bad batch. I'll continue to buy their product regardless of where it is brewed.

 

I'd like to know more about what caused the problem and how they'll avoid it by changing the brewing facilities.