Why is most Texas craft beer cloudy?

Discussion in 'Southwest' started by CBCatx, Jun 10, 2014.

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  1. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Zealot (743) Oct 15, 2006 Arkansas

    It's state law. It represents cannon smoke from the battle of The Alamo and dust kicked up from cattle drives.

    If you don't like it, write your congressman.
     
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  2. blatherbeard

    blatherbeard Initiate (0) Sep 30, 2007 Texas

    I really think that id like you guys if i could get over to your brewery someday. I laugh*(in a good way) every time you post.
     
  3. Chuk_Hell

    Chuk_Hell Initiate (0) Apr 12, 2012 Texas

    I like this explanation the best.

    Clairity is overrated. My favorite beer is damn near opaque.
     
  4. CBCatx

    CBCatx Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2013 Texas

    Thanks for the recommendation, will check it out.
     
  5. CBCatx

    CBCatx Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2013 Texas

    Really I was looking for a well carbonated TX czech style pilsner that could stand against a beer like a Firestone Walker Pivo Pils, or Sierra Nevada Summerfest for the masses. I was drinking St. Arnold Summer Pils yesterday and just felt a general disappointment in the beer. I can appreciate all craft beer to some degree, and to that end it was decent, but I feel the aforementioned breweries are on a different level.

    The closest I've found to matching a Pivo Pils is Live Oak Pilz, which is real solid, but not on the same level as those other guys. Plus you can only buy draft, so it's not a convenient option as a consumer that wants a product I can grab in the fridge after a long day at work.

    Just for perspective, my favorite TX beers to buy are: Deep Ellum (IPA), Hops & Grain (Zoe), and Austin Beerworks (Pearl Snap, Peacemaker). Texas has yet to put up an IPA to compete against a Two Hearted, Sculpin, Fat Head's IPA, etc. With all the growth in Texas, and a strong craft beer community, it's only a matter of time before that changes. Or at least that's my hope.
     
  6. Grendle

    Grendle Initiate (0) Apr 11, 2012 Texas

    Two words... Yellow Rose!
     
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  7. HookemHops13

    HookemHops13 Initiate (0) Mar 21, 2013 Texas

    Ugh... Way to ruin the Lakewood Hop Trapp IPA I'm drinking by putting YR in my mind....
     
  8. mindswoop

    mindswoop Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Texas

    I disagree that Pivo is better than Live Oak, Hans Pils, or Pearl Snap...they are all great examples of the style with their own nuances. Victory Prima is also great and readily available.

    Agree on the IPA. ABW Half IPA (technically pale ale), H&G Greenhouse Mosaic, and Lone Pint Yellow Rose are the best I've had but none are relatively easy to get anywhere in the state.
     
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  9. Bluestar

    Bluestar Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2012 Texas

    Unless you live inside the loop in Houston.... then it's in every decent beer joint. Yellow rose has become my go to the last few months...

    The fact of the matter is that we drink the runoff from the city of Dallas [Shudders as he says it]. so if it is, we all know who the polluter's are. :wink:

    right.... because sugarland's water source is different from the rest of us... :astonished:

    I don't know how many large bodies of water you think are in the greater area... :grimacing:
     
  10. TexasStout

    TexasStout Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2007 Texas

    Until very recently, our SL water was from underground aquifers only and was rated in top 3 in Texas for quality. That's why our water is delicious while Houston's sucks. Then the powers that be came to realize with the population growth and increased use, subsidence was becoming an issue and so made the decision just this year to start getting it from above ground sources as well. :slight_frown:
     
  11. txjustin

    txjustin Initiate (0) May 29, 2013 Texas

    I'll take St Arnold Endeavor over Sculpin any day. (i haven't had two hearted).
     
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  12. Bluestar

    Bluestar Initiate (0) Mar 5, 2012 Texas

    Well thanks for the education sir! I thought we were all supplied by good ol' lake livingston.

    on a side note... i still really need to follow up on getting some kind of purifier in the house for drinking water....

    continue on....
     
  13. champ103

    champ103 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,296) Sep 3, 2007 Texas
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    Just had Luchesa Lager, from Oasis. I think it is great. I was not to much of a fan of the London Pale, so I was not expecting much with this. Though a really well done Pilsner I think. Reminds me of Hans Pils.
     
  14. SHODriver

    SHODriver Pooh-Bah (2,415) Aug 13, 2010 North Carolina
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    it isn't so much a lack of filtration but different processes. Most breweries will but the beer in a bright tank and drop the temps. As temps drop things formerly in solution come out and fall to the bottom. A few breweries with larger operations have invested in centrifuges and there are other breweries that have taken it a bit further and filter their beer through diatomaceous earth (DE). All drinking water already has outstanding clarity, creating fermentable sugars from grain and adding yeast is where things start to get hazy. You'll find that beer gets cloudy from the sparge, to the transition to fermentation and the fermentation itself. Beer doesn't start to gain clarity until steps are taken to remove some of those dissolved solids that are floating in solution.
     
  15. NiceFly

    NiceFly Initiate (0) Dec 22, 2011 Tajikistan

    I just drink Hopadillo out of the can and call it a day.
     
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  16. Can_has_beer

    Can_has_beer Initiate (0) May 14, 2013 Texas

    How can you say that?? Two Hearted is rated 95, Fat Head's a 96, Sculpin a 98 and Yellow Rose a 97. Now, I'm not saying that just because Yellow Rose is rated higher than Two Hearted, that it is a better beer. But clearly, all of these IPA's are in the same ball park for quality.
     
  17. nathanmiller

    nathanmiller Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2009 New York

    What!? Only 97!? Who is slacking off!?
     
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  18. tx_beer_man

    tx_beer_man Pundit (902) Jan 22, 2013 Texas
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    :confused:
     
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  19. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Firestone Walker is a world class brewery and Pivo Pils is a world class example of the style so it will be hard to find anything in the world that is better, not just in TX. As far as IPAs go, in my opinion TX breweries are not very good at making IPA. I think part of it has to do with the alkalinity of the water in TX and the fact that most breweries probably do not have an RO system. There are a few examples that are very good, but again there are better options. If you think Sculpin is better then anything a TX brewery makes, drink that instead, if you think Pivo Pils is better, drink Pivo Pils. There is no need to drink TX stuff just because you live in TX now and its local. Drink what's best, it forces other breweries to improve their on brewing, don't drink beers just because they're local.
     
  20. jamescain

    jamescain Initiate (0) Jul 14, 2009 Texas

    Alkalinity can affect clarity though. Ever since I started using Acid malt my beers have cleared up substantially and I was cold crashing before. I think the big thing is filtration. Cold crashing takes time and holds up tank space that most of the breweries do not have. If they don't have a filter then there is a higher chance that their beers will be some what hazy. It shouldn't really affect the taste to a point, but most people just have a negative preconception of beer that isn't clear.
     
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