Sanitize bottles in dishwasher but...

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  1. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    John Palmer says we can sanitize our bottles in a dishwasher in preparation for bottling:
    Unfortunately, some of the rack spikes in my dishwasher have snapped off through the years exposing some of the material (type of metal?) under the plastic coating. Doubtful I'm thinking but, anyone think I can still use my dishwasher to sanitize my bottles? Here's a pic of what it looks like:

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  2. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    Yes, it will be no problem.
     
  3. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    What exactly is your concern ? I think you'll be fine
     
  4. markdrinksbeer

    markdrinksbeer Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2013 Massachusetts

    worst thing that could happen might be that the metal scratches the inside of the bottle, giving it a nucleation point that might cause more C02 to be released?
     
  5. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Oh, that's good to hear. jlordi12, I don't know exactly. I will show my ignorance here - I'm fine with tiny metal bits getting sloshed around my dishes for eating and drinking, etc. but I just didn't know if some of, very small though they may be, those bits could contaminate my bottles somehow. Thanks for the responses!
     
  6. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    markdrinksbeer - interesting!
     
  7. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I tried using my dishwasher a few times to sanitize bottles with poor results. The jet of water don't always get up inside of the bottles to help clean them out. This is fine if you're confident that there isn't any gunk, mold, dust, etc inside of the bottle. As for me, it's about as much work/time to take some Star San and a funnel and go to town on the bottles right before I get the wand out.
     
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  8. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    I make sure to rinse my bottles as I drink them, then heat-sterilize them in the dishwasher. Easy!
     
  9. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Bam! Easy pizzie. I always wash my bottles after use to avoid any mold build up then hit it with starsan before bottling.
     
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  10. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    It's the dishwasher's heat that is supposed to sanitize the bottles (not the water jets themselves). The bottles should be clean before they go in, just like they should be before any type of sanitizing step. Still, the reason I abandoned dishwasher sanitization when I used to bottle was that some of the water does get inside the bottles, creating a possibility (however small) of dishwasher crud lodging inside (because of the awkward configuration and hit or miss rinsing).
     
  11. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    All valid points. I've been rinsing out every bottle of beer that I've been enjoying as soon as I finish pouring into my glass and letting them dry upside down in a clean dishrack. They're all nice'n'clean right now (though picking up a bit of dust from sitting around). Maybe I'll try the dishwasher method for this batch and maybe Star San for the next batch.

    Thanks again, everyone!
     
  12. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    I've maybe bottles 25-30 batches using the dishwasher to sanitize. Never had one issue. And my dishwasher is really, really old. A lot cleaner method than StarSan. I think you'll be fine with the dishwasher.
     
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  13. jlordi12

    jlordi12 Pooh-Bah (1,856) Jun 8, 2011 Massachusetts
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    For people that use the dishwasher lets say standard size washer. How many bottles can you jam in there? I might be bottling in the near future
     
  14. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    I can get about 40-50.
     
  15. hoptualBrew

    hoptualBrew Initiate (0) May 29, 2011 Florida

    I been wanting to try this. You think soak in PBW -> hot water rinse cycle x2 would do the trick?
     
  16. jono0101

    jono0101 Initiate (0) Aug 1, 2011 Missouri

    I've been using a dishwasher to heat sanitize since my third batch (just bottled #12), and have never had any problems, but I also am using the dishwasher in my basement that only handles dishes from the bar, so no food or any other particles really knocking around in there. For me, the ratio of 22 oz to 12 oz bottles makes a difference in how many I can fit, since the 12 oz bottles fit perfectly if I use every other peg. The bombers on the other hand get a little tight when I do that, and I end up having to give them more space. The batch I just bottled though I used 24 12 oz and 10 22 oz bottles, with enough room to fit probably another 15 or so 12 oz bottles, so I would agree with mattbk on 40 to 50.
     
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  17. Jmitchell3

    Jmitchell3 Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2013 Arizona

    I've never done sanitizing in the dishwasher. I've always used starsan, but I think the dishwasher should work just fine as long as the bottles were clean going in.
     
  18. jae

    jae Initiate (0) Feb 21, 2010 Washington

    I also try to sterilize a case or so, covering the tops with Star-san'ed foil. Got to be prepared.
     
  19. CurtFromHershey

    CurtFromHershey Initiate (0) Oct 4, 2012 Minnesota

    My dishwasher is far from commercial in size, but I also don't think it's the smallest size available (it's a whirlpool FWIW). With a little creativity I can get 12 22's and about 36 long-neck 12's on the lower rack, plenty to do 5 gal and some extra since I stress out over everything.
     
  20. mattbk

    mattbk Savant (1,111) Dec 12, 2011 New York

    That should be more than sufficient. I don't use the dry cycle, let the hot rinse cycle finish, give the bottles some time to cool with the door closed, and go.
     
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