Patriotic Beer Drinkers

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by beachfirebrews, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    You left out SABMiller out of the "big domestic brands owned by foreign companies". SABMiller, headquartered in London, is the second biggest brewing company in the world (after A-B-InBev) which bought the Miller Brewing Co. in 2002.

    In 2007, MolsonCoors and SABMiller merged their US divisions into a joint venture known as MillerCoors.

    Here's a list of the brands the two main companies own or import into the US. The Big Brewers' Brands
     
  2. BeerSingh

    BeerSingh Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2009 India

    BMC is "Imported" in my part of the world .... LOL :grinning:
     
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  3. BrohamidAli

    BrohamidAli Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2011 Illinois

    Wait so are you saying Budweiser, miller and Coors are owned by the same company?
     
  4. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    No (not sure how you'd get that?).

    I clearly stated "... the two main companies..." - i.e., Anheuser-Busch-InBev and MillerCoors in the US* - and the link is to a website with two distinct columns of brands, one for each company.

    *(Outside of the US, the latter are separate companies- SABMiller and MolsonCoors.)​
     
  5. BrohamidAli

    BrohamidAli Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2011 Illinois

    sorry, it was late and I read that wrong, but still very interesting
     
  6. boilermakerbrew

    boilermakerbrew Initiate (0) Aug 13, 2010 Indiana

    I agree that ignorance is rampant in beer menu making, but on the note of America....I'm gonna tell you guys the same thing I told that teacher lady, "The only 3 letter I need to know are U, S, and A!"
     
  7. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    Not that I like Bud or Coors (I don't), but I think we have to cut their fans like that bartender just a little slack. It wasn't THAT long ago that they were wholly owned American companies. Unless you're a beer geek, you might not be aware that they were bought out by multinational corporations.

    For example, how many on this thread who aren't car geeks can tell us when Toyotas began being made in the US vs. being imported?
     
  8. Hoagie1973

    Hoagie1973 Initiate (0) Jan 30, 2008 New York

    I'm a little confused myself at how a beer brewed wholly within the US by a brewery founded in the US, employing US citizens, and operating in the US for over 150 years, suddenly becomes a foreign beer because it's been owned by a foreign company for less than 4 years.
     
  9. mjtiernan

    mjtiernan Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2008 New York

    In most cases I agree, but I may feel compelled to mention it if suddenly I'M the asshole because I ordered a Sierra Nevada and the bartender is a xenophobic prick.
     
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  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Well, the flagship labels of the US "Big Two" - Coors, Miller, Budweiser - aren't brewed "wholly" within the US - they're brewed all over the world now, sometimes under license, sometimes at other breweries owned by their corporate parent.

    But, generally, I agree with you- Bud, Miller and Coors beers brewed and sold here in the US are "American beers", despite being owned by multinational companies.

    Still, getting back to the OP's point- he was ordering a Sierra Nevada Pale Ale, which is as - if not more - American than those macro brands.

    (Plus, if A-B's "Budweiser" is so concerned with it's US pedigree, maybe they shouldn't have "borrowed" the German name of a Bohemian town :wink: .)
     
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  11. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    Matt, please dont use words I dont understand. It confuses me and then I dont feel I can properly be sarcastic in my answers back to the OP about being an American and punching people in Bars.

    Cheers!
     
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  12. jmw

    jmw Initiate (0) Feb 4, 2009 North Carolina


    1982, Fremont CA, in a joint move with General Motors.
     
  13. mjtiernan

    mjtiernan Initiate (0) Feb 15, 2008 New York

    he dumb
     
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  14. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    OP, the correct pronunciation of the word in this context is 'murkan
     
  15. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    You know that not all Toyotas are made in the US, right? Prius, and almost all of the Lexus brand are imported from Japan.

    Car manufactures make cars all over the world. Sometimes they have operations in places like Canada or Mexico, which at one time (may still be true, not sure these days) they had to make some cars to sell cars in that country.

    All of the VW Beatles are made in Mexico. Do you call that a German car?
     
  16. RoryOMoore

    RoryOMoore Pundit (901) Mar 26, 2009 New Jersey

    A few months ago my brother in law was in Georgia and he saw a local micro advertizement that went something like "Like a west coast IPA but made in America" LOL
     
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  17. happy4hoppybeer

    happy4hoppybeer Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2009 Pennsylvania


    I would also argue that ignorance is also so instilled in our culture...
     
  18. BrewDogRocks

    BrewDogRocks Initiate (0) Oct 15, 2011 Texas

    Hello. Would you guys consider Ford a US car, a domestic? Many models from them are manufactured in Mexico, the Focus for example. Is that car foreign or domestic? Many of BMW's car line up is made in the US; Import or domestic? The thing with some of these beers like Bud, Coors, etc is that after they were bought out some of the processes are being outsourced to other breweries around the world. It doesn't apply to the US, but Fosters which we all know is 'Australian for beer' is not brewed in Australia anymore. So yes, for the most part, what most people think of as 'American beers' are brewed in the US and just happen to be owned by international conglomerates, but I wouldn't be surprised if those conglomerates move operations elsewhere if it helps their bottom line.

    As others have mentioned, I wouldn't blame the bartender for not knowing that those US beers are produced by 'foreign' companies; however, anybody with even the simplest background of working at bars should know that Sierra Nevada is a California beer. There is no excuse for that.
     
  19. wcintula

    wcintula Initiate (0) May 2, 2010 New York

    Oh please! What will you ask for next, a Blue Moon?! U-S-A!! U-S-A!!
     
  20. beachfirebrews

    beachfirebrews Devotee (344) Nov 10, 2011 Michigan
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    Well...did not expect this thread to head in this direction! At any rate, since I started it, I'll give my $0.02.

    Yes, even though the big guys are foreign owned, they are still brewed in the U.S. using U.S. ingredients. That makes them an American brewed beer. But the decision making (at least the big decisions) are not made by execs who are worried about the impact it will have on employees, their families, communities, etc. I can guarantee that after InBev took over AB there was not an increase in employment in AB breweries and offices. Their main concern is $$$$$. That is where the issue comes into play. The fact that the BMCs are foreign owned means Americans are not making the final decisions. To me, that means they are a foreign beer. I may be incorrect, but this seems logical. In the case of Sierra Nevada, (almost) everything is American. And that makes it a true American beer! So God Bless Sierra Nevada and all other AMERICAN beers!
     
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