best way to cool wort

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by langdonk1, Jul 13, 2014.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    I've been having trouble cooling my wort down to an appropriate temp to pitch my yeast. my cold water supply doesn't go under 78 degrees running through my wort chiller. What can I do to cool my wort faster?
     
  2. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    You could purchase a second wort chiller, and run it inline with the current one. The second would be submerged in a bucket of ice water.
     
    sethsticles and GetMeAnIPA like this.
  3. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    Yes, pre-chiller heat exchanger...some people use pond pumps also.
     
    inchrisin likes this.
  4. Sonofalime

    Sonofalime Crusader (408) Oct 11, 2010 Virginia

    Is there a way you could run the water through ice. Say if your hose line was long enough to run through the ice before entering your copper tubing. Should cool down further.
     
  5. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    bgjohnston and PortLargo like this.
  6. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    I like the double wort chiller idea. Sounds the most cost effective. Has anyone heard of freezing water bottles, dropping them in a bucket of starsan solution and then into thr cooling wort?
     
  7. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Immersion chillers are a pretty easy and relatively inexpensive DIY project. Bend it around a form (I used my CO2 tank) and be careful not to kink while bending.
     
  8. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
    Pooh-Bah

    I would rather put the pot in an ice bucket with water that I could stir around the outside of pot. That's the way I cooled wort before I got a chiller.
     
    bgjohnston likes this.
  9. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
    Trader

    Are you certain the entire volume is 78°F?

    The temperature of the very top layer will be x-degrees warmer than the very bottom layer.
    The temperature of a well mixed volume will be lower than the temperature of the top layer.

    Noting wrong pitching yeast into L70s wort if you have a way of cooling the fermentor to the desired temperature before active fermentation gets underway.
     
  10. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    If you don't mind making some adjustments to your recipe, you could over-boil a bit and add ice to the wort to top off after you have cooled it as much as practical with the chiller. That's a quick and dirty trick I used with extract brewing when I first started.

    I also chilled my brew kettle in a large tub of ice water, too, before I got my immersion chiller. If you take the worst of the heat away with the immersion chiller first, either technique should get you to a good pitching temperature.
     
  11. PortLargo

    PortLargo Pooh-Bah (1,831) Oct 19, 2012 Florida
    Pooh-Bah

    Get a plate chiller.

    My inlet water temp is in the high 80s, so I consider myself an expert in this area. I struggled with an IC, used lots of ice with a submersible pump, and it still took forever. Then I got the plate chiller. It still takes ice to complete the job, but what used to take 45 minutes is now a 15 minute job.
     
  12. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    You didn't mention this as something you are already doing, but gently whirlpooling it with a sanitized spoon or cordless drill with sanitized paddle attachment while the chiller is doing its thing also helps.
     
  13. sethsticles

    sethsticles Crusader (413) May 6, 2014 California
    Trader

    I would be concerned the water flow is too fast for the cold water to cool through a hose. Though, I use very thick walled hoses so a thin hose may be just fine.

    I do the double IC, 60' coil in the wort and a 25' coil in ice water which helps drastically. One of these days I'll upgrade to a plate chiller and pump, as those really are beasts when it comes to chilling wort.
     
  14. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    Might have to buy a bag of ice and throw it in the bath tub while running the IC at the same time. Summer is tough for brewing in south carolina
     
  15. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    I do it all the time. It works.
     
  16. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    I don't see why not. Frozen bottles and agitation moving the wort chiller should bring temp down fast
     
  17. langdonk1

    langdonk1 Initiate (0) May 16, 2014 South Carolina

    I'm a chef and in the kitchen we use a huge frozen ice bottle to submerge in stocks and sauces to bring down the temp to a safe range quickly.
     
  18. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    Ha. You are a chef AND home brewer!!? Good luck maintaining control of home brewing as a hobby. I am pre-diagnosing you with Homebrewing Attention Surplus Disorder. Sorry. There is no cure. You are doomed to making fantastic fresh beer and having great food ingredients and techniques at your disposal.
     
    ronobvious2 likes this.
  19. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    I do the immersion chiller with another in a bucket of iced salt water. The salt allows the water to get to temps below freezing allowing me to cool the wort even faster. I can do ten gallon batches from 170 to 70 in about 20 minutes.
     
    bgjohnston likes this.
  20. bgjohnston

    bgjohnston Initiate (0) Jan 14, 2009 Connecticut

    We used to salt the ice to get the beer colder in the Alabama heat. Works well enough that light beer becomes a "beersicle" when you want a really cold one.
     
    SFACRKnight likes this.
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.