Why does Jester King not have Reserve Society?

Discussion in 'Southwest' started by Bigbear968, Jul 16, 2014.

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  1. Bigbear968

    Bigbear968 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2014 Texas

    I know that there are a ton of people that would spend the couple of hundred dollars to join a reserve society if they allow you to reserve all of beers and pick them up every quarter. With it seems like with every weekend a new beer being released it would save people in Dallas, Houston, and San Antonio from driving up every weekend. I read all of these post about how the are environmental friendly JK tries to be, but they are having people drive to Austin almost every other weekend to pickup the new release from them.

    You could limit it to the person with the membership has to pickup the beer to limit the amount of proxies. I would love to see this happen.
     
  2. tx_beer_man

    tx_beer_man Pundit (902) Jan 22, 2013 Texas
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    Yeah there's been back and forth here on BA on the idea...Not sure if it will come to fruition anytime soon. I do know though that JK has a serious cult following that would make sense for a RS.
     
  3. aschwab

    aschwab Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    Drive almost every other weekend? More like every weekend.

    And it sounds like you want it so you can get the releases since you do not live in Austin (I am guessing).
     
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  4. mph005

    mph005 Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2013 Texas
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    They do have an unofficial reserve society. It's called "living in Austin".

    I have no real opinion on if this is a thing that should happen or not, but I could see issues preventing it. I'm guessing one issue would be storage space for bottles that are reserved. It's not that big of a building.
     
  5. Bigbear968

    Bigbear968 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2014 Texas

    I do not live in Austin but drive up there about every third weekend from Dallas. I know that there are bunch of people that also do it from Dallas as well as Houston.
     
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  6. E-DUBB

    E-DUBB Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2012 Texas

    i'd imagine once JK opens the doors for a reserve society, the response would be overwhelming...possibly in a good way.
     
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  7. elWhite

    elWhite Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2006 Texas

    And where would JK store three months worth of beer, waiting for your quarterly visit?
     
  8. aschwab

    aschwab Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    If there was a reserve society, it would probably definitely limit the numbers of each beer people get. Instead of being able to get 2 or 3 (or if you take your wife, 4-6), you would likely only be able to get 1 bottle since most would be reserved by people in every other city. People would sign up that rarely go out there already and now only need to make the trip once a quarter even further diluting the amount available.

    But, I am in Austin, and am selfish. I think Karbach should save me their bottles as well. Same with Lakewood's Temptress. And Freetail.

    There is always an advantage of having a brewery local, reserve societies take that away.
     
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  9. aschwab

    aschwab Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    And along with that, why would JK want a reserve society? Having one makes it so people do not need to go to the brewery nearly as much. Right now, people have to go out there almost weekly to get beer and they always buy stuff on tap as well. Make a reserve society, a lot of people would show only ever so often.
     
  10. quietdomino

    quietdomino Initiate (0) Aug 26, 2013 Texas

    I've done a complete 180 on this issue. Originally, I was thinking only of myself and how great a reserve society would be for me since I live near Fort Worth. But it really makes no sense for Jester King. They have no trouble selling their beer the way they are doing things now. And the storage issues that would come into play with a reserve society would definitely pose a problem.

    Also, it's not that important to get every single bottle. I was going to drive down there two weekends ago to get Lemon-Lime and Biere de Miel, but that fell through. I then went the next weekend and got some Detritivore and was still able to drink Miel and Lemon-Lime, which were on tap (as well as more Funk Metal once the Miel was gone).

    They are releasing so much so often that any weekend you are able to go, you'll be rewarded with great beer to taste and to buy. Just don't get hung up on having to have everything. They'll make it again.
     
  11. imamutant

    imamutant Initiate (0) Apr 6, 2014 Texas

    I only wish this would happen now that I've moved out of state. Buying beer is way easier than trading it and I can't find anyone to go buy bottles and hold them for me.
     
  12. Bigbear968

    Bigbear968 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2014 Texas

    I understand what you are saying and I agree with some of what you said. I would the Reserve Society would be limited number of membership (maybe 1,000 to 2,500 people) only open to people in Texas and only the person could pickup beers and you could charge a person $300 per year for membership.
     
  13. aschwab

    aschwab Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    So that would mean pretty much all of their 200 case releases are reserved before it is even released. Why limit it just to TX? Because you live in TX? I say you limit it just to Travis counties and the counties around Travis county.

    Again, it makes no sense for them to have one as it limits the number of times people go out there. A lot of people go out there for every release and now if they know the have it reserved, the likely will just start skipping weekends. And then charging 300 bucks for what?
     
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  14. Bigbear968

    Bigbear968 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2014 Texas

    Well they don't have to do it but it would be a nice thing for people outside of Austin. I course I have heard of many people from Austin complaining to drive out there. I would say that Lakewood and Karbash are not brewpubs and distribute product on a regular basis. If you want to buy me all my Jester King beers I will bring you down all of the Temptress and other Dallas goodies you want including growlers of Peticoles beers about once every 2 months.
     
  15. air

    air Zealot (671) Mar 28, 2007 Texas

    I'm seeing this same sort of trend in general with regard to super small batch one offs. Quick examples in mind are De Garde and Tired Hands where taps/bottles rotate real often and even some of the locals tell me that eventually the novelty wears off knowing that another release is inevitable. I suppose you can also throw in the homer factor, and you get that vague cloud that fires up trading debates, but that's another discussion.

    Consistency on these one off type releases are what drives my purchasing decisions for the breweries who have this model; they've clearly moved away from a standard/"regular" offering format. For instance I've had enough Side Project to know not to chase them too seriously, but Block 15, SARA, and de Garde? Please send more.
     
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  16. aschwab

    aschwab Initiate (0) Mar 3, 2009 Texas

    That is the issue. JK has no incentive to do it. You just would like most releases but you cannot get them.

    I would like releases from other breweries that I cannot easily get as well.

    There are randomly bottles that I do want from up there, but I do not follow them nearly as much to know which ones.
     
  17. Bigbear968

    Bigbear968 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2014 Texas

    I did not mean to make you angry. It was just an idea and its just beer. I will keep making trips down there as long as they keep making good beers. I know that couple of other breweries are doing the same time for rewarding loyal customers. If they wanted to make a lot of money than they would just say no limit on bottles and sell out in a given weekend. They would not worry about the storage. It is nice however that I can make a trip down to Austin and pickup four to five different bottles on weekend because beers last multiple weekend (limits on bottles).
     
  18. wiingman

    wiingman Initiate (0) Aug 22, 2013 Texas
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    The biggest advantage to a reserve society from the breweries perspective is a guaranteed source of income up front. It's great if you're looking to raise money to expand a tasting room, add storage, or some other capital intensive project. You get profit from a whole year's worth of releases right up front. It seems that Jester King is either comfortable growing at a slower pace, or they have all the funding they need for whatever expansion plans they have in the near future.
     
  19. air

    air Zealot (671) Mar 28, 2007 Texas

    Another reason against one: having it may not even be legal in Texas (hell this certainly wouldn't surprise me).
     
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  20. bccocx

    bccocx Pooh-Bah (1,576) Jan 13, 2007 Texas
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    I can't imagine why JK would need a reserve society. They seem to be making some great profits with their current model. It looks like they're actively expanding and improving the brewery with the money they're making (PLEASE improve the road some day). I could understand the need for a reserve society if they weren't receiving much traffic, but that's simply not the case. They don't seem to be having any inventory issues with their beers.

    If a reserve society did exist, I'm sure some people would pay $X amount for the membership and ultimately spend less money overall at Jester King. I also don't think there is a really fair way to establish a society without upsetting or alienating some of their customer base. There are certainly a lot of people that spend lots of money at JK without such a society in place.
     
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