Pouring from one growler to another

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  1. clayfu

    clayfu Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2010 California

    So I've had some bad experiences with the twist cap growlers going flat after a few days, what do you guys think about pouring those growlers immediately after having it filled into a flip top growler for better keeping? I know you'll lose some carbonation and maybe some beer loss from the creation of the head, but otherwise it should keep a tighter seal?

    Anyone have experience doing it?
     
  2. sharpski

    sharpski Grand Pooh-Bah (3,100) Oct 11, 2010 Oregon
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    I think the agitation and oxidation involved will negate any benefits from a better seal after transfer. If you plan to keep a growler for a while, avoid screwtops in the first place. Better to drink it out of the screwtop sooner than later, and bring the fliptop for the fill next time.
     
  3. Atthedrivein

    Atthedrivein Initiate (0) Apr 7, 2012 New Jersey

    I hate when they won't fill a swing top,when theirs is clearly inferior. Good luck with this, I wouldn't want that much disturbance.
     
  4. Givemebeer

    Givemebeer Savant (1,219) Apr 6, 2013 Vermont

    I've had screwtops stay good for over a week. But the person pouring definitely has to screw it tight and fill it well.
     
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  5. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Don't. You also increase the amount of oxygen in and/or affecting the beer thereby speeding up its loss of freshness.
     
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  6. clayfu

    clayfu Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2010 California

    Had two straight alpine growlers go flat. Gotta be worth trying. You do increase oxygen exposure but if you keep the beer at the same level it shouldn't make much difference. The same application for wine it feel should work for beer.

    I dunno. Just worth a try. The screw top is already a shirty growler so might as well try something.
     
  7. dbauer78

    dbauer78 Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2012 Pennsylvania

    I used to agree with you on this, but recently started using a plastic polyseal cap that seams to seal much better. I have kept growlers unopened for about 2 weeks without noticing much difference in the beer. If I was able to figure out hot to upload pics on this thing I would pull one up but I cant seam to figure it out.
     
  8. Brocklanders34

    Brocklanders34 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2013 Wisconsin

    Hey Mikey, gotta go to the bathroom?
     
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  9. gpcollen1

    gpcollen1 Initiate (0) Jul 16, 2005 Connecticut

    Twist cap growlers generally do not leak. Use a new cap with a rubber seal. The only caps I have had leak were those plastic seal caps.
     
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  10. TheGator321

    TheGator321 Initiate (0) May 29, 2013 Connecticut

    I get a few 32oz. screw tops a week. I usually drink one on Saturday, the day of filling, and one on Sunday. the others are left for Wednesday or Thursday. Still fresh and delicious. I always make sure the caps are tight before I leave the brewery as I'm loading them into the car. I keep a cooler in warmer weather to ensure they are kept cold which helps too.

    I don't wait more than a week to drink any screw top growler.
     
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  11. geocool

    geocool Savant (1,233) Jun 21, 2006 Massachusetts

    I don't believe it's even true that the flip tops seal better than screw tops. As long as the screw top cap has good rubber underneath it and is screwed on tight, I see no reason why the beer inside won't last just as long. I kept one for about four months once and it still had good carbonation. Even if flip tops are marginally better I'm quite sure that the harm (oxidation, loss of CO2) from pouring would far outweigh any benefit.
     
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  12. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Please do not do this. You will just be exposing the beer to oxygen during the transfer that will negate the point of pouring it into a "better" growler. How long do you plan on keeping the beer? I am assuming it is a hoppy beer, coming from Alpine. Keep it cold and drink it as soon as you can. Not familiar with Alpine's policy, but I am also guessing they only fill their own growlers?
     
  13. Prince_Casual

    Prince_Casual Savant (1,236) Nov 3, 2012 District of Columbia
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    I have experience not buying growlers because I didn't want to drink that much, or didn't like the price/oz.

    There's not a chance in the world you'd look back on doing this and think "that was a great idea!"
     
  14. Pzellot

    Pzellot Initiate (0) Nov 17, 2012 California

    I purchase growlers of IPA every once in a while. Most of the time I fill a screw top growler. I've never experienced a growler that goes flat or bad and I have kept them for more than a week. I always filll the growler up to the very very top so that some spills out when screwing the cap on tightly. I also have a grumbler (32 oz screw top) that I will sometimes fill with the growler beer when I know I'm not going to finish ithe growler. Never had a problem either. Sometimes I will fill a bomber and cap it too, also never had an issue. I think the trick is to always fill the container up to the very top leaving zero room for air space above the beer. A while ago I picked up 4 growlers at a popular brewery, all of which had about 3-4 fingers of airspace over the beer (lame), we decided to fill three all the way up to the very very top and drink the fourth. A week later the beer was still just as outstanding as normal.
     
  15. robear

    robear Initiate (0) May 24, 2014 Wisconsin

    Huh. Never had an Alpine go flat- they usually fill to the top and screw the cap on like mad. I always give it an extra twist to make sure. If I'm keeping it for awhile I'll wrap it in electrical tape as well.

    They do fill without a tube, I believe, so if someone wasn't paying attention maybe they foamed up your beer while pouring. They're usually pretty great at it, though.

    Does suck that they charge $10 for their new growlers.
     
  16. schris

    schris Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2014 Illinois

    Huh, that's too bad. My experience with growlers is that if they fill from the bottom up and use a new cap, they can stay fresh for quite a while.
     
  17. clayfu

    clayfu Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2010 California

    They did fill to the top and screwed it on pretty tight. July 4th weekend we got four growler fills, two were consumed the next day and were fine. The next two were consumed three days later (so the 5th day) and one was oxidized (not completely flat) and the other was perfect.

    Had one filled last week, consumed on the 5th day, filled to the top and screwed on tight. Strong signs of oxidation, loss of lift on the palate and significantly reduced carbonation. A real pity.

    Might just stick to buying bottles if I can't consume the growler in the first 2-3 days.
     
  18. robear

    robear Initiate (0) May 24, 2014 Wisconsin

    I know I had issues a few years ago with flat bottles. Maybe they were pouring from an old keg, or just did a sh!tty job of pouring that one? Bummer, love their beer.
     
  19. paulys55

    paulys55 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 Pennsylvania

    Can someone elaborate on Alpine's growler filling technique? Just curious
     
  20. clayfu

    clayfu Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2010 California

    could just be a poor seal on the caps, I compared the caps of the growlers and they all look pretty similar, but you never know. They can be screwed on as tight as possible, but can still have oxidation of the cap is getting weak. Wonder if I can bring my own cap... hm.. I'll try anything at this point :slight_smile:
     
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