Oberon(ish) Clone, wort too cold

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  1. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    I just made an oberon clone and I pitched the wort too cold, I was paranoid about pitching yeast at too high of a temp and threw store bought ice in the wort. The temperature sits at 52 in my fermenter. Should I wait til the temp raises to 60 til I pitch my yeast?
     
  2. mnstorm99

    mnstorm99 Initiate (0) May 11, 2007 Minnesota

    What yeast are you using?
     
  3. evantwomey

    evantwomey Initiate (0) Jan 1, 2008 North Carolina

    You put ice into your wort? That is a horrible idea. I would guess you've just majorly increased your chances of contamination for this batch. Next time place the fermenter in an ice bath.

    You could probably pitch now or at 60. The yeast should start up once the beer warms a bit. If it were me, I'd wait till I reached my planned pitching temp.
     
  4. sergeantstogie

    sergeantstogie Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2010 Washington

    Good luck. Ice isn't santiary.
     
  5. kjyost

    kjyost Initiate (0) May 4, 2008 Canada (MB)

    Don't be stressed about the ice. Could it introduce bad stuff? Yup, especially if you don't clean your trays often. Will it ruin your beer? I bet less than 1% of the time you get something in there that will overpower the big pitch of yeast you are about to throw in there.

    Personally, I would have pitched the yeast and let it warm with the wort. I have no clue if that is bad or not, it's just what my gut would have told me to do.
     
  6. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    Safale Us-05. I let the wort warm up in the fermenter to 60 then pitched it. The ice i used to cool my wort was store bought and I'm hoping there won't be any contamination.
     
  7. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    The temp has increased to a steady 66 which is where I am going to try to keep it.
     
  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Chances are you'll be fine, but I wouldn't play russian roulette with unsanitized ingredients in the future.
     
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  9. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    Does Safale 05 seem like a decent bet for this one? I originally wanted wyeast 1010 but the store didn't carry it.
     
  10. mz3frs

    mz3frs Initiate (0) Oct 19, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Oberon's signature (to my palette) orange flavor is a product of their proprietary yeast strain. So while you will probably have good beer, it might not be very oberon-like with US-05.

    A large, late addition of a citrus hop (Cascade always tastes orange to me) could be used to produce a similar flavor.
     
  11. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    Would a little orange zest do the trick?
     
  12. yinzer

    yinzer Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2006 Pennsylvania

    From what I have been told there is a difference there's a difference between throwing a 70*F starter into a 50*F wort (not good) and chilling the starter in the fridge to 50*F and then pitching. Basically you don't want a change in the environment and temperate at the same time.
     
  13. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    if my yeast was at room temp and i pitched at around 60 would the worst case scenario be dormant yeast?
     
  14. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    There would probably be no problem at all. Warm yeast into cold wort can be a serious problem. Cold yeast into warm wort (at fermentation temp or below) is generally not.
     
  15. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    I should have worded that differently the yeast was warmer than the wort by about 10 degrees
     
  16. dougofthefuture

    dougofthefuture Pundit (837) Oct 15, 2009 Minnesota

    I keep reading that too. I've tried cloning this three times now using American Ale yeast, Kolsch, and fresh dregs from Oberon bottles. I liked the Kolsch best, then the American, then the Oberon dregs. The dregs were grown up and pitched in volume, but they just didn't have much character fermented at 68. Maybe I did something wrong... The Kolsch was great, but I'm still hunting for that orange juice flavor.
     
  17. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    I've read the same things, as I am relatively new to brewing my priorities are just a better beer. I've read about using Bells yeast as well and have seen clones use wyeast 1010.
     
  18. dougofthefuture

    dougofthefuture Pundit (837) Oct 15, 2009 Minnesota

    Ya, sorry to derail - your yeast will make a solid wheat beer for sure. Back to your original question - I think your yeast pitched slightly below the fermenting temp will be excellent.
     
  19. drperry11

    drperry11 Initiate (0) Jan 8, 2012 South Carolina

    thanks doug...fermenting at between 60 and 63 for the first week to produce a clean taste!
     
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