First Brew Ever (pics)

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  1. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I just took another gravity reading from that sample from about a week ago.
    1.012..........crap. After 3 weeks in fermentation I took a reading of 1.021 (was lazy and just bottled after that). And it dropped to 1.012 this week? Stupid question: Priming sugar should not affect F.G., correct?

    So, I guess I have potential bottle bombs. The good news is, I've stored them in a hefty cooler so they're contained. Now what? Open'em and recap? Ugh. None of the caps have blown off.....yet.

    I've learned my lesson. Be sure to take two gravity readings spaced by about 2-3 days. If same, you're done and you can bottle. If not, give it more time. Damn it.
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Priming sugar will decrease FG, but very slightly. It's 100% fermentable, so actual attenuarion of the sugar is 100%, but apparent attenuation is closer to 122%, because alcohol is less dense than water. But 1.021 to 1.012? No, that indicates that attenuation was not finished.
     
  3. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Was afraid you would confirm that. Hey, the optimist in me is saying, "Maybe your 1.021 reading was incorrect!" Yeah, that's the ticket!
     
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  4. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I'm in denial right now....do not want to recap........bahhh brb......
     
  5. JrGtr

    JrGtr Pooh-Bah (1,775) Apr 13, 2006 Massachusetts
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    In this case, with potential bottle bombs going, I would first put the bottles into a plastic tub or some such, so it they go, you won't get too much of a mess, of beer or shards.
    Next take one bottle and consider opening it. Obviously slowly and carefully. General rule of thumb around here is minimum 2 to 3 weeks to carbonate, but in this case it is for science.
    You will either get a gusher, possibly requiring mopping of the ceiling, or a quiet hiss.
    if hiss, you're in good shape. Drink the open beer and relax. If a gusher, you're in more trouble.
     
  6. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    ....Alright, I'm back. Thanks JrGtr. It was really getting to me. I just opened all and recapped immediately. They actually seemed fine. Every one I opened gave a gentle to medium hiss. I'm still glad I recapped. A few more days and I'll drink'em! I hope they retain at least some of their carbonation. If not, oh well.
    [​IMG]
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    Helmet. Check!
    Gloves. Check!
    Bare Feet...
     
  8. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Doh!!! Hahahahahaha! VikeMan, you don't miss a thing, do ya!
     
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  9. RobbyComstock

    RobbyComstock Initiate (0) Nov 29, 2013 Colorado

    Looks like you got a nice setup going for just starting.
     
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  10. Vogt52

    Vogt52 Initiate (0) May 25, 2014 Maryland

    Congrats on your first brew! I really need to get back into this. It's time consuming, but totally worth it!
     
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  11. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Well, the day has finally come. Tasting day! I was able to pick up a sixer of Palm Beligan Pale Ale to have along with my Belgian Pale Ale (thanks VikeMan for guiding me to that instead of Orval). My overall impression of my very first homebrew is.........IT'S NOT TERRIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:slight_smile:
    With all the weird little mistakes I made with this first batch, I really just wanted it to be drinkable. It is, and I'm thankful. It's not very good; a bit syrupy and too concentrated. The color is too dark for a pale too. But, it's drinkable. I'll finish this batch off for sure.

    Thanks everyone who chimed in and gave me some advice. Got batch #2 in fermentation right now and I look forward to many more! Feel free to guess which one is the homebrew and which one is the Palm!
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  12. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Syrupy and concentrated mean your beer was probably under attenuated.

    Obviously, when brewing with extract, it's got a bit more than the just pale malt in there, with things like carapils and what not in it. That will add body, and you don't have much choice in trying to get it drier, other than yeast selection.

    I'd focus on pitching rates, and controlling the fermentation temp. Both of those will yield better beer. You can have a high end sports car ( your recipe ) with a really shitty engine ( the yeast ) and it doesn't amount to much of anything in the end if it can't come together correctly.
     
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  13. machalel

    machalel Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2012 Australia

    Congrats on surviving your first brew experience and coming out with not terrible beer!

    It should get better with a bit of time on it. My first brew straddled the line between "drain pour" and "use for cooking", but I hid a bottle away for 12 months and it actually improved to "I would drink a glass if it was free"! :wink:
     
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  14. greyghost86

    greyghost86 Initiate (0) Apr 22, 2012 Delaware

    This was an awesome thread to watch as I myself have only just started home brewing and seeing how supportive this group is makes me more willing to ask questions. Congrats on your first brew and the trials and tribulations that you shared with everyone!!!
     
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  15. jbakajust1

    jbakajust1 Pooh-Bah (2,552) Aug 25, 2009 Oregon
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    I was thinking this, or that it isn't fully carbonated yet and the syrupy aspect could be priming sugar, dependent upon how much he used to prime with. Also, looking at the lack of head on his compared to the Palm (tons of other factors could contribute to that as well though).
     
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  16. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    I believe it was under attenuated. I can't explain what happened but the gravity reading after 3 weeks in the fermenter was 1.021. It was supposed to be 1.012. Thinking 3 weeks was long enough, I bottled. I had about 4.6 gallons of beer to bottle. Using the Brewer's Friend online calculator, I used 3.7oz of priming sugar aiming for 2.2 volumes of CO2. A few days after that machalel gave me the idea of cracking open a bottle and putting the beer in a plastic bottle for a week and shaking it around. After a week, that sample had a gravity of 1.012.:grimacing:

    This could have meant that my other readings were wrong or my beer hadn't fully attenuated. Unfortunately, I cannot answer that with certainty.

    I've been reading a bit about yeast and pitch rates and I'm getting the impression that new home brewers tend to under pitch their batches. Hey, maybe a vial of WLP550 is enough for a 5 gallon batch but I should have made a starter anyway I think. Maybe my vial was weak from the beginning and I under pitched and the beer finished under attenuated (but the sample eventually read 1.012 which is where the recipe was supposed to finish). Maybe the yeast stalled and I woke it up when I bottled? I'm reading that the White Labs vials generally will have 100 billion cells (assuming it's a healthy vial of yeast). I think I'd rather have closer to 175 or even 200 billion cells per 5 gallon batch though. So, should have made a starter. Over pitch, under pitch, sure it's about balance but at this point in my brewing hobby I'd rather over pitch (I think:confused:).

    Other info:
    1. Did not top off with enough water. (Fermented with 4.6 gallons)
    2. Did I aerate enough in the beginning? I'm reading that it takes about 45 seconds of aggressive shaking to get 8ppm of oxygen in there to keep the yeast happy. Not sure I did that.
    3. Did not filter out hops, hot break/cold break, etc. when transferring to the fermenter.
    4. Fermentation temps were probably too high 75*F-78*F.

    Anyway, these are just some thoughts. And good stuff to remember for future batches.

    My home brew is actually the one on the right. My pours were not consistent so the confusion is understandable. I poured the Palm too gently, getting no head and I poured my home brew aggressively, creating a nice thick head. You can see though, the Palm just looks more crisp and clear (as it tastes) than mine.

    In other, more upbeat news, my hefe is bubbling ferociously in the basement at 63*F right now and I'm very excited for that one!
     
  17. thewrongtone

    thewrongtone Zealot (743) Oct 15, 2006 Arkansas

    I think the confusion came from the bottles behind the glasses.
     
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  18. Curmudgeon

    Curmudgeon Savant (1,110) May 29, 2014 Massachusetts
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    Yeah, I didn't want to give it away. Thought it'd be fun for people to guess.

    Edit: Fermentation temps were low 70s.
     
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