Blind IPA/IIPA Taste Test

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  1. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    This is my take as well. Haven't had HDR but I've had 2 of each Heady, Pliny, and Blind Big. I thought Blind Pig was, at best, an average IPA. Heady was very, very good but not #1. Pliny was good but not even a top 15 IPA for me.
     
  2. halo3one

    halo3one Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2014 Georgia

    Pliny>HT>HDR>BP. Once you've had Pliny on tap at RR...you understand that a month makes a difference in the bottle.
     
  3. TillTheMedicineTakes

    TillTheMedicineTakes Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 Colorado

    Someone is pouring and will know.
     
  4. reefer_bob

    reefer_bob Savant (1,010) May 13, 2014 California
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    I'm going to do a PtE, Blind Pig, Heady, and one more blind taste test here next week. very anxious to try this!
     
  5. BeerMeBro720

    BeerMeBro720 Initiate (0) May 2, 2013 Ohio

    I was thinking about throwing CBC Bodhi into the mix, but any Ohioan could easily pick that out of a lineup. It would be interesting to get an outside opinion!
     
  6. dar482

    dar482 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,063) Mar 9, 2007 New York
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    Hugely surprising for me.
     
  7. FoamInnovation

    FoamInnovation Initiate (0) Nov 12, 2013 Washington

    One of the reasons I am such a fan of Uinta, Sixpoint, and Odell is because we have done a ton of blind taste tests of their IPAs/IIPAs and they continue to impress, regardless of the taster. These really are amazingly flavorful beers. In the case of the IPAs, they are clean, charged and ripe, like a freshly scrubbed prom date that just got into her dress. With the IIPAs, they are rich, layered and shmexy, like a slightly tipsy cougar with a gym-perfect body, that buys you a drink at the bar while signalling her limo driver to bring the car around.
    Ahem.
    Just saying that you don't necessarily have to hunt down a limited/regionally available/$20 a bottle bragging right to still have one of the best IPA/IIPA experiences.
     
  8. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    Blind tastings are like any of the other ways we have of knowing, of learning something, or of understanding the world. There are strengths and weaknesses to each and which way of learning, knowing, or understanding should be used depends in part on the question being asked and upon a clear sense of what can and can not be learned, known, or understood using that menthod of discovery and analysis.

    Specifically, in doing sensory evaluation blind tastings can not give us all the answers, but they can help us to reduce the effects of irrelevant factors that can influence human judgment of quality (e.g., above a particular price point, the knowledge of the price paid for a bottle of wine or beer can have a greater impact on the sensory evaluation of even trained judges than is justified by the quality of the contents of the bottle). Similarly, the perception of rarity can have comparable effects.

    In other words, because the world is in large part an ambiguous place we have to provide some of the structure ourselves, and what we believe to be true can sometimes lead us to "find" or "believe" things that don't actually exist or that are not true in the external world. Blind tastings are a tool that can help reduce or eliminate the effects of such things.
     
  9. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    Nice selection of palate wipeout. One of them will basically be wasted.
     
  10. Roguer

    Roguer Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,811) Mar 25, 2013 Connecticut
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    Like I said, I love them. I do think that they have inherent limits, though. Here are two quick examples that illustrate what I mean.

    1) Heady vs PtE vs Resin vs 2xIPA. Ignoring whether or not one person as an individual can figure which is which in a truly blind taste test (say, someone who has never had either), this is a great way to see what beer you actually prefer, without hype coloring the senses. Two mega-hyped, incredibly well-known DIPAs, and two well-received, but completely unhyped DIPAs. This is where a blind taste test is so great; it removes your preconceptions and forces you to deal only with the senses available to you right now.

    2) KBS, Parabola, BCBS. Not head-to-head or side-by-side; just one beer, at one time. Sure, remove the hype from a beer like these, and you may well rate it differently. So what's the drawback? Exactly as I detailed above. If you know it's a high-ABV, BBA stout, you may be fair; if you only judge it on your senses, you may say, "Wow, that's got quite a kick. It doesn't hide its alcohol very well!" but that would be a misconception. These aren't "little" 9% imperial stouts. One could quite easily make the argument that part of their craftsmanship is how they are as approachable as many sub-10% RIS(s), even while packing on another entire beer's worth of alcohol.

    Do you get funk or sourness? Should you? Is the beer cloudy? Should it be? Is the beer made well or poorly? Knowing what to expect is part of knowing whether or not a beer lives up to its promise. Stone's Spröcket is a tasty beer judged on its own merits; if I bought it expecting a traditional Kölsch, I would be incredibly disappointed.
     
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  11. rgordon

    rgordon Pooh-Bah (2,701) Apr 26, 2012 North Carolina
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    I've had all 4 and think each one to be excellent. Preference is subjective at best, not to mention all sorts of potential variables that might be lurking about. Until recently I've been able to get HDR regularly just 2 days after canning. This is a great beer that is hugely satisfying. To me, that is the quest: which beer do you savor sip for sip and contemplate exactly why it is so satisfying? I look forward to the results of this tasting!
     
  12. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    That wasn't my point.
     
  13. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Darwin, I think you're a cool guy - so don't take this personally, but do you think it's a little premature to make declarations of "best" and "favorite beer in the world" after only trying a beer at a tasting and then having a few sips alongside two other beers? I'm sure you spent a good deal of time with those beers after the camera stopped rolling, and maybe you've had Double Sunshine multiple times since and it confirmed your feelings in the video, but isn't the moral of your video that one shouldn't put too much faith in black and white thinking?
     
  14. M_chav

    M_chav Maven (1,432) Apr 15, 2014 New Mexico
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    Am I the only person that was not at all impressed with Hop Drop n Roll.... was happy to be able to try it but didn't amount to anything better than average to me.
     
  15. GetMeAnIPA

    GetMeAnIPA Pooh-Bah (2,559) Mar 28, 2009 California
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    Great review. I like watching your videos. Good beers, good palate and they the right length. Cheers!
     
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  16. dar482

    dar482 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,063) Mar 9, 2007 New York
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    Very much appreciated. Thanks!!
     
  17. woodchipper

    woodchipper Grand Pooh-Bah (3,735) Oct 25, 2005 Connecticut
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    You can't drink HT from the can (as recommended) and do it blind.
     
  18. huntermop

    huntermop Initiate (0) May 25, 2013 South Carolina

    Yes
     
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  19. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I love HT as in love it, but honestly could really flip a coin (HDR) to which one I have a preference for. HDR is a bitch to get right now, I have to drive to Charlotte. I'd go dead tie at 1st, HT/HDR/ Blind Pig/ Pliny. Flip the RR stuff if Pliny is under 15 days old. The best part with HDR is when I get it's it's 3 days old, can't beat fresh.
     
  20. Scipio3

    Scipio3 Zealot (562) Mar 11, 2014 Ohio

    Why not?
     
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