BrewDog Russian Doll - An Exploration into ABV

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  1. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    BrewDog has just launched a new set of beers that they describe as their

    latest exploration into ingredients, following on from IPA is Dead & Unleash the Yeast.
    . . .
    This time we’ve used the same malts, hops, and yeast - the differences are down to the ABV.

    There’s a great complexity when trying the beers side by side - the aromas & flavours from extra pale, cara and dark crystal malts vary from biscuity through caramel, toffee and treacle as you might expect, but the hops (simcoe, citra, cascade and centennial) present differently from style to style - from zesty to tropical through stone fruit to jammy.

    The labels feature exclusive artwork by Esther McManus.
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    The brewing information is as follows

    ABV: 4% / 6% / 8% / 10%
    OG: 1041 / 1058 / 1074 / 1097
    IBU's: 35 / 70 / 85 / 100
    Malts: Extra Pale, Cara, Dark Crystal
    Hops: Centennial, Cascade, Citra, Simcoe
    Twist: Four beers, four styles, one DNA    ​

    I think this is a really great concept for brewing beers, and I hope to get some stateside. More information can be found here: http://www.brewdog.com/product/russian-doll#tabs2

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    #1 tkdchampxi, Sep 11, 2014
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  2. rogerdandy

    rogerdandy Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2011 Canada (AB)

    cool. can't wait.
     
    #2 rogerdandy, Sep 11, 2014
  3. malvrich

    malvrich Initiate (0) Feb 17, 2014 North Carolina

    Freudian. :grimacing:
     
    #3 malvrich, Sep 11, 2014
  4. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
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    Love the idea and the 4 pack. hope I can find some fresh
     
    #4 jageraholic, Sep 11, 2014
  5. Rollzroyce21

    Rollzroyce21 Pooh-Bah (2,211) Oct 24, 2009 California
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    Interested in this, but who else thinks a 6-er would've been better?
     
    #5 Rollzroyce21, Sep 11, 2014
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  6. tkdchampxi

    tkdchampxi Pooh-Bah (2,473) Oct 19, 2010 New Jersey
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    12% and 14% That'd be cool. I usually really dig 12% beers
     
    #6 tkdchampxi, Sep 11, 2014
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  7. Gilmango

    Gilmango Initiate (0) Jul 17, 2007 California

    OK gimmick to sell beer but by jumping the IBUs up as they increased the grain they have really manipulated two variables and not one, and they did not do it in a proportionate way. That is 4.0 abv has 35 ibu, but 6.0 has 70 ibu (instead of 52.5 which would be proportionate). But really I'd rather they do all the beers at one ibu level. I'd also like to know that the hop additions were identical in timing, and that the grain additions were also proportionate as the grains were increased. But I really tend to doubt both of those are true given what they did with the ibus. Thus, to me, this seems like just a gimmick where they did not in fact just manipulate a single variable (abv) at all.
     
    #7 Gilmango, Sep 11, 2014
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  8. halo3one

    halo3one Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2014 Georgia

    I like the thought behind it, can they execute?
     
    #8 halo3one, Sep 11, 2014
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  9. Hanglow

    Hanglow Pooh-Bah (2,051) Feb 18, 2012 Scotland
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    The yeast and hop series were interesting enough but there wasn't a great beer among them. And a couple of poor ones

    still it's an interesting exercise if nothing else
     
    #9 Hanglow, Sep 11, 2014
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  10. RaphaelSC

    RaphaelSC Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2013 Brazil

    I think the post above answers your question.
     
    #10 RaphaelSC, Sep 11, 2014
  11. wordemupg

    wordemupg Grand Pooh-Bah (3,187) Feb 11, 2009 Canada (AB)
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    I was expecting to see a 96.8% beer after reading the thread title....
     
    #11 wordemupg, Sep 11, 2014
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  12. tylerstravis

    tylerstravis Pooh-Bah (2,487) Feb 14, 2014 Colorado
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    "The most alcoholic beer in the world!"
     
    #12 tylerstravis, Sep 11, 2014
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  13. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Sounds interesting.
     
    #13 UCLABrewN84, Sep 12, 2014
  14. JT_Paperstacks

    JT_Paperstacks Initiate (0) Jan 6, 2014 Virginia

    "I was expecting to see a 96.8% beer after reading the thread title...."

    My thoughts exactly
     
    #14 JT_Paperstacks, Sep 12, 2014
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  15. TruePerception

    TruePerception Initiate (0) Aug 30, 2013 California

    Why raise the hops as you raise the ABV. I know you usually want to balance them, but it makes it really hard to tell the effect of the change in ABV when you're changing the hopping levels. It just sounds like a way to sell more beers to me.
     
    #15 TruePerception, Sep 12, 2014
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  16. drewone

    drewone Pooh-Bah (2,283) Sep 18, 2006 California
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    Nice packaging
     
    #16 drewone, Sep 12, 2014
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  17. 77black_ships

    77black_ships Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2012 Belgium

    Cool packaging, I will pick these up if I happen to come across them.
     
    #17 77black_ships, Sep 12, 2014
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  18. HuskyHawk

    HuskyHawk Initiate (0) Jun 5, 2014 Massachusetts

    Ok, so not a single variable, but they did essentially use the same malts and hops, and just vary quantity of each, to create four different beers. They do describe it as four styles, so there is naturally a jump in IBUs from Pale Ale to IPA, less of one from IPA to DIPA and honestly, I am surprised they didn't drop IBUs for the barleywine. It's still a cool concept. The artwork is awesome.
     
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  19. larryi86

    larryi86 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,118) Apr 4, 2010 Delaware
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    I can't wait to try these!
     
    #19 larryi86, Sep 14, 2014
  20. atomic

    atomic Pundit (945) Sep 22, 2009 Illinois

    Does anyone know the ballpark time from bottling to US store shelves? I'm always hesitant to buy IPAs from overseas.
     
    #20 atomic, Sep 14, 2014
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