Bicycles / Cycling and Beer

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Kurmaraja, Sep 23, 2014.

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  1. chcfan

    chcfan Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2008 California

    Good for you, but the fact remains that it is not helping.
     
  2. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    There's actually a beer bar / butcher shop / restaurant in NYC called The Cannibal paying homage to the man:

    http://thecannibalnyc.com/

    And they're not bad. Last time I was there, granted this was a long time ago, they ended up offering me a Hill Farmstead beer that wasn't on the menu since I was chatting them up about beer.

    This, and the comment about the historical connections (e.g. Amstel Gold, etc), are factors I was thinking about but didn't bother to mention because I thought it might just be my tendency to draw abstruse connections. But when we think about the spring classic races, Cyclocross, the 6-day races, etc, they're all located above the "beer line" - in northern country where beer is the preferred beverage, not wine. The grand tours get most of the attention these days, but those are a small part of competitive cycling, and probably the only part that really dips into wine countries.

    Of course, the beer consumed at Cyclocross and 6 days is by the spectators, not the riders ... but in the US we don't tend to think of cycling as a rowdy spectator sport (or one with a lot of gambling going on as is the case with keirin and 6-days).

    And the point @beertunes made about tech tees seems right on to me. That's not something I've seen much of but it feels like a no brainer; get people out doing any kind of activity wearing your brewery's kit. I'm surprised more breweries don't have these and don't organize weekly "fun runs." When I lived in Chicago, the main running shop, Fleet Feet, had a weekly fun run of anywhere from 3 miles (for most) to 10 miles for the competitive folks. It usually ended up back at the store but often at a local bar. There were often beers or other beverages at the store even when it ended there. Seems like a great way in an active town to get 20+ thirsty folks at your brewery on a mid-week day.
     
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  3. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    True. The debate is really whether or not it's doing any harm. I think the risk of modest to moderate alcohol consumption is low and my workouts tend to bear that out. I'd say at the level of performance I'm at - good enough to win a state championship in WA but not good enough to be competitive in any national event or to race domestic pro - it's no harm. Job stress is a bigger hindrance!
     
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  4. AnitaBrewski

    AnitaBrewski Savant (1,235) Dec 21, 2012 Massachusetts

    Things that I do and that I enjoy: I work, I bike, I drink beer, I sleep. I'm not a complicated man. There are other things that I do and enjoy but TMI. This is the one of the best threads I've read here because it involves beer and biking.
     
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  5. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    Next idea - brewery themed pajamas!
     
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  6. Beersnake

    Beersnake Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,884) Aug 17, 2013 California
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    Why wait until after the ride????

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  7. Mizz

    Mizz Initiate (0) Jul 26, 2014 California

    I'm feeling lackadaisical so I'm not going to run back through the thread, but I read your earlier posts as supportive of the concept that most people who ride bikes fit into a wealthier group. If I mis-read and you qualified that differently, my apologies. And that would be a privileged perspective, and I don't mean it as a jab. A large number of the bike riders in L.A. that are hurt or killed on the roads are people of color doing the bike-bus-bike commute to/from work in the middle of the night.

    Anyways, I apologize for veering the convo away from the OPs topic, but I love talking about bike shit! I think the intersection between bike and craft beer comes down to people interested in things that don't quite fit in the mainstream. I think somebody already made this point, but riding a bike is not mainstream, and craft beer, although growing rapidly, is certainly not mainstream.

    Also, as an aside, this has to be one of the most dangerous set ups I have ever seen, please don't ever do this unless you don't mind stitches in your tender bits!

     
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  8. stephens101

    stephens101 Pooh-Bah (2,778) May 5, 2006 Oklahoma
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    Never given it much thought because it's always just seemed a given. I do know there's not much more enjoyable than a good ride (mtb or road) and a good buzz from a tasty beverage. Also, they both seem pure, simple and timeless.

    Of course it all started for me when I realized a couple of Bigfoot's in the evening were packing it on big time, which subsequently called for a trip to the local bike shop, and then it was all downhill, or uphill if you prefer, from there.

    The subculture aspect of it (mtb at least) was also very appealing, but I didn't really start to realize all that until after I got into it.
     
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  9. sjverla

    sjverla Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2008 Massachusetts

    Cyclist, beer lover and marketer here. Not that it makes me especially qualified, but it's not the breweries making the connection. For some reason, there's a historical connection. Maybe it's got something to do with prominence of cycling in beer-loving nations of Europe (Belgium, Germany, Denmark, UK to an extent). There's a longstanding relationship between cyclists and beer - US breweries are either A. Genuinely interested in some capacity (likely), B. Capitalizing on what they perceive as a fad (very antithetical to the ethos people love to tie to breweries around here), or C. A combination of the two (most likely).

    That's not how it works. For 'athletic' (sorry, lack of a better word. Endurance, race, etc.) riding, a better saddle (not seat) is firm (read: hard), smooth (low-friction), weighs only a few grams (carbon fiber) and can run you over $150. And it's not just spandex. You need a pad sewn in there. I've recently become partial to gel, but it's not for everyone...
     
  10. AlienSwineFlu

    AlienSwineFlu Savant (1,135) Dec 14, 2012 Ohio

    I rode from Columbus to Cincinnati a few weeks ago (106 miles). Went straight to Rhinegeist Brewery. Prost!
     
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  11. stephens101

    stephens101 Pooh-Bah (2,778) May 5, 2006 Oklahoma
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    Someone really should write a book about this.
     
  12. beergoot

    beergoot Grand High Pooh-Bah (9,310) Oct 11, 2010 Colorado
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    Those spiffy little water bottle holders do an excellent job of carrying top-quality, canned sports drinks like Old Chub, Heady Topper, and Autocrat Coffee Milk Stout.

    And the more bosses on the frame, the more sports drinks you potentially can transport!!!
     
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  13. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    I just love also a good stop during my lunch hour to my beer places, load up after work on my Messenger bag.. and bringer home!!

    Been doing it for years, heck it's how my beer GETS home! 95% of the time :slight_smile:

    Heck I even threw a Sam Adams winter classics in my old back pack and took that thing home... that was one hell of a ride.
     
  14. Orca

    Orca Grand Pooh-Bah (4,710) Sep 18, 2010 Washington
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    Interesting thread, which I just skimmed quickly. I think it's really a convergence of a number of factors, some of which have been mentioned, some that maybe haven't been:
    • Both are particularly popular among white males with disposable income
    • Both are deeply rooted in European culture/tradition
    • Both attract people with an "independent" mind set
    • Both (in my experience anyway) are favored by people of above-average intelligence who might still be turned off by the perceived snobbiness of wine
    • Cycling is for athletic people who aren't necessarily jocks; beer is for drinkers who aren't necessarily alcoholics
    • The "gearhead" factor
    • Geography (as mentioned): some of the best beer is made in places that are also beautiful places to ride
    • Cycling burns calories; beer provides plenty of calories to burn
    • Marketing
     
  15. Dave2234

    Dave2234 Savant (1,094) Aug 20, 2013 Minnesota

    I can't speak for the previous poster's experience, but it can be done. I have 1333 miles in so far this summer, including four 50+ days and many in the 30-50 range. It does help that I have some, um, built-in padding.

    But I will admit to occasional soreness and am thinking next year I'm going to break down and buy my first pair of bike shorts.

    Getting a little back on topic, beer is a great motivator. I'm trying to bike to every taproom in the greater twin cities (MN) area this summer (at least one-way, and most round trip) and even many of the non-taproom trips have some type of beer destination along the way.

    Random question for the biking/beer folks: I've found after a decent ride, especially if it's warm, a Red tastes incredibly good, even though it's not my normal go-to style (generally, I prefer the opaque beers, you know, the ones compared to used engine oil). I haven't figured out if there's actually something about the reds that really synergizes with the exercise/water loss/electrolyte loss/hypoglycemia, or if it's all in my head, and I was just really thirsty the first time I had a red after biking and somehow have convinced myself it tastes so much better. Anyone else have similar experience?
     
  16. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    My random guess is that really heavy beers don't taste / feel good after a lot of exercise or in the heat when you're dehydrated. You obviously like a decent amount of malt so maybe a red is just something enough lighter than engine oil to be refreshing but still containing enough malt to satisfy you?

    I don't think it's unusual for lighter beers to take on the bicycle type names. I've seen a number of radlers this summer with bicycle themes - Tricycle Radler from Parallel 49 in Canada and the aforementioned RAD "cycliquid" from Sixpoints. I think HUB / Hopworks did one as well. The pale ale or session beer would seem to fit in as well.

    I'm concocting the idea of a bunch of cycling named beers. You could have an ISA called "The Grimpeur", a Pale Ale called "The Domestique", an IPA called "The Roleur", a IIPA called "The Baroudeur", and a triple IPA called, appropriately, "The Finisseur". But, being French names, perhaps they should be farmhouse style beers of varying strengths?
     
  17. jgeiger

    jgeiger Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2008 Ohio

    Next time you go let me know. I do that ride more than a few times a year. Between Yellow Springs Brewery and Rhinegeist, its a perfectly bookended day.
     
  18. Roxie_B

    Roxie_B Initiate (0) Jun 1, 2014 Alabama

    So how do you bring beer home when you ride a bike? How would that even work with growlers, cases, or (oh dear I am tired just thinking about this) a keg? Semi-serious question.
     
  19. IPAandGreenChile

    IPAandGreenChile Initiate (0) Jun 25, 2014 Colorado

    Too bad Their is not more long distance runners who also love good beer. There is nothing quite like running ten miles and then drinking ten beers. Its quite a great feeling. I suggest trying it.
     
  20. -N8

    -N8 Initiate (0) Feb 7, 2014 Germany

    Competitive cycling and beer?

    Yes.

    Sandra Looney (Team Ergon) with a post race Whisky 50 brew
    Marble Brewery's Red Ale (ABQ, NM)
    [​IMG]
     
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