Critique My Stout Recipe

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  1. pumahunter

    pumahunter Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2014 Colorado

    Feel free to give advice, I still consider myself a newb doing my own recipes, still doing extract/steeped grains for now...


    AmountFermentablePPG°LBill %
    5 lbDry Malt Extract - Light42441.7%
    4 lbLiquid Malt Extract - Dark353033.3%
    1 lbAmerican - Caramel / Crystal 75L33758.3%
    0.5 lbAmerican - Caramel / Crystal 120L331204.2%
    0.5 lbAmerican - Chocolate293504.2%
    0.5 lbGerman - Carafa III325354.2%
    4 ozAmerican - Black Malt285002.1%
    4 ozAmerican - Dark Chocolate294202.1%
    12 lbTotal
    Hops
    AmountVarietyTypeAAUseTimeIBU
    2 ozColumbusPellet15Boil60 min46.07
    1 ozChinookPellet13Boil45 min18.33
    1 ozChallengerPellet8.5Boil30 min10.03

    OG 1.076
    FG 1.019
    ABV 7.53%
    IBU 74.4
     
    #1 pumahunter, Oct 15, 2014
  2. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    I'd use all light DME and cut the crystal back a tad...and up the others to get your SRM

    Looks pretty good, though
     
    #2 GreenKrusty101, Oct 15, 2014
  3. pumahunter

    pumahunter Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2014 Colorado

    thanks!
     
    #3 pumahunter, Oct 15, 2014
  4. pumahunter

    pumahunter Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2014 Colorado

    Adjusted it a little...


    AmountFermentablePPG°LBill %
    6 lbDry Malt Extract - Light 424 46.9%
    3.3 lbLiquid Malt Extract - Dark3530 25.8%
    16 ozAmerican - Pale 2-Row371.8 7.8%
    10 ozAmerican - Chocolate29350 4.9%
    10 ozGerman - Carafa III32535 4.9%
    6 ozAmerican - Caramel / Crystal 120L33120 2.9%
    6 ozAmerican - Caramel / Crystal 75L3375 2.9%
    4 ozAmerican - Black Malt28500 2%
    4 ozAmerican - Roasted Barley33300 2%
    12.8 lbTotal
    Hops
    AmountVarietyTypeAAUseTimeIBU
    1 ozColumbusPellet15Boil45 min19.48
    2 ozMagnumPellet15Boil60 min42.44
    1 ozChinookPellet13Boil45 min16.88
    1 ozChallengerPellet8.5Boil30 min9.24
     
    #4 pumahunter, Oct 15, 2014
  5. wspscott

    wspscott Pooh-Bah (1,958) May 25, 2006 Kentucky
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    Why the mix of LME and DME? Why the pound of 2 row? You know that can't be steeped, right?
     
    #5 wspscott, Oct 16, 2014
  6. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    You still have Dark LME. I'm always a little skeptical when I see dark extract combined with crystal and roasted grains. Undoubtedly, that extract is dark due to some combination of colored crystal malts, roasted grains, and low flavor colored extracts similar to Sinamar. Something is making it dark, right? If you do not know how much of what, added more darks grains onto that is, well, a shot in the dark? This is what GreenKrusty and others like me would recommend using a light extract for your base grain and then build your color and flavor around that with specialty grains, giving you greater control and understanding of what's going into your beer.
     
    #6 pweis909, Oct 16, 2014
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  7. pumahunter

    pumahunter Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2014 Colorado

    True, I do know it cannot be steeped, but I have read a bit about adding a small amount of 2-row to the steeping for the extra enzymes it will release and further enable the starches to convert to fermentables...anyone else hear of that?

    Yeah, I should've obviously known that, changed all extracts to light...here's what I'm looking at now...almost 9% abv, about 75 IBU...


    AmountFermentablePPG°LBill %
    7 lbDry Malt Extract - Light42450.3%
    3.3 lbLiquid Malt Extract - Light35423.7%
    10 ozAmerican - Chocolate293504.5%
    10 ozGerman - Carafa III325354.5%
    8 ozAmerican - Caramel / Crystal 75L33753.6%
    6 ozAmerican - Caramel / Crystal 120L331202.7%
    4 ozAmerican - Black Malt285001.8%
    4 ozAmerican - Roasted Barley333001.8%
    16 ozAmerican - Pale 2-Row371.87.2%
    13.93 lbTotal
    Hops
    AmountVarietyTypeAAUseTimeIBU
    1 ozColumbusPellet15Boil60 min18.55
    2 ozMagnumPellet15Boil60 min37.1
    1 ozChinookPellet13Boil30 min12.36
    1 ozChallengerPellet8.5Boil20 min6.37
     
    #7 pumahunter, Oct 16, 2014
  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    That's called a mini-mash or a partial mash. As long as you do it at mash temperatures, for a long enough period of time, the enzymes in the base malt will convert starches from itself and from specialty malts into sugars/dextrins. However, in your particular recipe, all of the specialty malts are steepable (they don't have a lot of unconverted starches), so they don't have to be mashed with a base malt. So if your only reason for the 2-row is for the enzymes, you don't really need it. You can do it if you want, and you'll probably get a little higher extract, but it's not strictly speaking necessary.
     
    #8 VikeMan, Oct 16, 2014
  9. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    Are you shooting for a hoppy stout? 75 IBU is usually an average hoppiness for an IPA. I like to keep my stout IBU's down around 30-40 for traditional style standards.
     
    #9 DrMindbender, Oct 16, 2014
  10. DrMindbender

    DrMindbender Initiate (0) Jul 13, 2014 South Carolina

    I would either go with around 1 oz Columbus by itself at 60 minutes or 1 oz Columbus and maybe a late addition (maybe 5 minutes or even a hopstand) of Chinook or one of the others you listed, but really late as to provide more flavor than bitter. At around 8% ABV (OG 1.084-FG 1.021), the IBU's would be around 47...dont forget that the more ABV equals less bittering from the same amount of hops at the same time.

    Unless you're trying to mash a Black IPA and a stout together.
     
    #10 DrMindbender, Oct 16, 2014
  11. pumahunter

    pumahunter Initiate (0) Jul 21, 2014 Colorado

    Going towards more of an imperial style...75 is right at the ibu of a yeti or old rasputin...
     
    #11 pumahunter, Oct 17, 2014
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