Utopias Information

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  1. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
    Pooh-Bah

    Just thought this post deserved its own thread since Utopias information is so far and few between. At the Max's Utopias tasting, the rep handed out this paper. Sadly, he didn't have the 2003 information included on the sheet, but that was a surprise to everyone. It was $100 for the five and the 2003 was $30 extra. Now, to find a 2002 and 2005. The tasting makes me want to keep up with Utopias now and start buying a bottle whenever it is released.

    Here is my post with more information on the actual tasting, with pictures.

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    p.s. @stealth, here is some information if you are interested.
     
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  2. BourbonBarrelBeerBelly

    BourbonBarrelBeerBelly Crusader (457) Feb 13, 2013 Washington

    When and where does Utopia release, anybody?
     
    #2 BourbonBarrelBeerBelly, Oct 20, 2014
  3. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
    Pooh-Bah

    Now, it is every two years. 2012 was unique because it was a 10th Anniversary release and early on it was 2002 (MMII), 2003 (MMIII). So, the next release is in 2015.

    My question is this blog that says they released it in 2001, but called it something different. I'm guessing they are referring to the 2002 batch, called MMII, that was probably distributed late 2001 and early 2002.

     
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  4. wd09601

    wd09601 Crusader (416) Jul 29, 2012 Maryland

    I always see one at my local store. I'm never actually tempted to spend $200 on a bottle, but it is such a cool looking bottle. Got to try a shot a few years ago and it was pretty damn delicious.
     
    #4 wd09601, Oct 20, 2014
  5. Respirologist

    Respirologist Pundit (756) Feb 26, 2013 Massachusetts
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    You should try to land a bottle of Sam Adams Millennium ( the precursor for Utopias released in 1999)
     
    #5 Respirologist, Oct 20, 2014
  6. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
    Pooh-Bah

    I've heard of Triple Bock still being on the shelves in some places. I would love to try some Triple Bock and Millennium.
     
    #6 gillagorilla, Oct 20, 2014
  7. KansasBeerLover

    KansasBeerLover Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2009 Kansas

    I have never seen even an empty bottle.
     
    #7 KansasBeerLover, Oct 20, 2014
  8. Brolo75

    Brolo75 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,134) Aug 10, 2013 California
    Pooh-Bah

    A local bottle shop has one bottle, I don't know anything about it except for the price, $299.
     
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  9. ONovoMexicano

    ONovoMexicano Initiate (0) Jun 14, 2012 New Mexico

    How do people that buy this justify buying this over a bottle of scotch for the same price?
     
    #9 ONovoMexicano, Oct 20, 2014
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  10. DrumKid003

    DrumKid003 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Oklahoma

    Interesting information there, I wish all tastings had this kind of information printed out. I saw a couple of bottles of Utopias sitting in a store in Springfield, MO about 4 months ago, but had neither the money or desire to buy one. The thing that kills it for me is the fact that they use Port barrels to age it because I absolutely hate Port wines.
     
    #10 DrumKid003, Oct 20, 2014
  11. HopAttack3

    HopAttack3 Initiate (0) Sep 15, 2011 Virginia

    Or a bottle of good bourbon, Pappy Van Winkle comes to mind, 15 year for a little less than that if you can find it...
     
    #11 HopAttack3, Oct 20, 2014
  12. DrumKid003

    DrumKid003 Initiate (0) Aug 10, 2013 Oklahoma

    I definitely buy a bottle of 15-20yr. Scotch (i.e. Speysides, Highlands and Islays) over throwing down $250-300 for a bottle of Utopia. Hell, with that money I could buy several bottles of Rodenbach Caratere Rouge and be happy for a long time.
     
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  13. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
    Pooh-Bah

    Well, I personally haven't acquired a taste for Scotch, Whiskey, or Bourbon. I also don't have enough experience with other spirits. I do love dessert wines of all kinds though. Having had 6/8 or 75% of all available Utopias vintages for $75 is a steal though. Will I end up buying a bottle for myself, probably not.
     
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  14. Silver_Leviathan

    Silver_Leviathan Initiate (0) Aug 5, 2014 Florida

    That 2013 added KMF is so great!

    Anyone know what the appropriate aging years for Utopias is?
     
    #14 Silver_Leviathan, Oct 20, 2014
  15. BeerWizard

    BeerWizard Pundit (889) Dec 22, 2012 Colorado

    Why isn't it just "Utopia?" That's my question.
     
    #15 BeerWizard, Oct 20, 2014
  16. gillagorilla

    gillagorilla Pooh-Bah (2,691) Feb 27, 2013 Maryland
    Pooh-Bah

    Do you mean how old long you should keep it for or how old the barrels are that were used in making it?
     
    #16 gillagorilla, Oct 20, 2014
  17. theconductor

    theconductor Zealot (739) Nov 4, 2008 California

    For the same reason that you'd justify the scotch. It's fucking delicious!
     
    #17 theconductor, Oct 20, 2014
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  18. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    That's not what BBC says on Triple Bock's webpage:
     
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  19. Respirologist

    Respirologist Pundit (756) Feb 26, 2013 Massachusetts
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    They can say and advertise what they want, but when you open a bottle and realize whats inside you know it wasnt meant to be drank 20+ years down the line......

    Millennium on the other hand , like Utopias ages gracefully. But Triple Bock not so much
     
    #19 Respirologist, Oct 20, 2014
  20. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
    Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    Well, now it's getting into a question of semantics, I suppose, but it seems to me the brewer alone should be the one to determine what they meant the beer to be. Others can say that it was "wrong" and should have never been cellared, or that the brewer's desire to brew a beer that would cellared for decades was a "failure". (I'll give you that those poor quality, port/sherry-type corks should have never been used for that beer- some leaked, many more break off upon opening.)

    Did you have SATB fresh? It was a pretty controversial beer even when released and aging has mellowed it somewhat but even the reviews here on BA continue to be from one extreme to the other.
     
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