OG was WAY too low

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  1. mrand01

    mrand01 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 New Jersey

    So a friend of mine and I did our 2nd brew last night using some different equipment from our first brew. The only thing that changed was our kettle, which is now a 10 gal. instead of an 8 gal. Our OG was supposed to be around 1.052 but ended up being like 1.025. I honestly can't think of what could have gone wrong...we ended up using a turkey thermo. to keep track of temps, which could have been a bad idea. Last time we used someone else's pot that had a thermo welded into the side of it.

    Any idea what could have gone wrong? We'd obviously like to correct it next time. I should mention that this was an extract brew and the water level was pretty low most of the time. Is using too big of a pot a horrible idea?
     
  2. alexipa

    alexipa Initiate (0) Oct 7, 2011 Colorado

    How much extract did you use? Your OG comes entirely (almost) from your extract in an extract brew, none comes from specialty malts. This should have nothing to do with temps.

    More water, bigger batch = more extract! Pitch it, ferment it, and drink it. Probably be a great session ale.
     
  3. utahbeerdude

    utahbeerdude Maven (1,374) May 2, 2006 Utah

    Given that it is an extract brew, it seem that one of two things could have happened: (1) you didn't use as much extract as you were supposed to or (2) you didn't correctly measure the gravity. This second case might have occurred as follows. If you did a partial boil and then added water to top off the fermenter, then you may not have mixed the final wort sufficiently. In this case you may have measured the gravity of the top layer of diluted wort.
     
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  4. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    How much water did you start with? What software/website did you use to calculate the OG?

    Can you post the grainbill?
     
  5. mrand01

    mrand01 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 New Jersey

    It was 7 lbs of light extract. We started with 2 gallons of water + specialty grains, then added a gallon of water + the 7 lbs. of extract. At this point we rolled up to a boil and started hopping. This was exactly the same process we used in our last brew, and that one came out fine. I'm at a loss as to what went wrong. I'd love to figure it out so I can correct it next time. Either way, we pitched and we'll see what happens in a couple weeks.

    Edit to answer some of the above questions: We used a Citra Pale Ale kit from Austin Homebrew. It was approx. 1.5 lbs of specialty grains and 7 lbs of liquid extract.
     
  6. GatorBeer

    GatorBeer Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 South Carolina

    Did you correct for temperature when taking your gravity reading?
     
  7. EseLocoSS

    EseLocoSS Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 Illinois

    I'm guessing this was a 5 gallon batch?
     
  8. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

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  9. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    A few things-

    Your gravity is correct, it was just measured incorrectly. I would guess the boiled portion of wort and the cold top-up portion did not fully mix. It's impossible to undershoot your gravity by 50% when using extract, but when doing a partial boil its super easy to read your gravity wrong. I've done it too, everybody has, no worries.

    Second- if you have a ten gallon, or even eight gallon pot, do a full wort boil. Put 5 gallons of water in right off the bat and don't top up with cold water at the end. You don't want "fine" beer, you want great beer and partial boils will never create great beer.

    Third- The beer will probably taste like beer, a little sweet and a little extract twangy, but beer nonetheless. Welcome to the world of brewing.
     
  10. mrand01

    mrand01 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 New Jersey

    Well I hope this is the case. As far as doing a full wort boil, we'd love to, but haven't really gotten to the point of formulating our own recipes yet. I would assume using a kit is out of the question since kits usually call for 2 gal. of water, not 5. Would you just double up the whole kit? I guess it's about time to figure out how to formulate my own recipes...
     
  11. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    Is it a two gallon kit? what is your total volume at the start of fermentation?
     
  12. mrand01

    mrand01 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 New Jersey

    At the start of ferm. it's 5.25 gallons.
     
  13. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “Is it a two gallon kit?” No, the instructions are just written for a partial boil.

    Message to the OP, since you have a very large pot you have the option to add more water for a full boil (greater than 5 gallons). You just need to ensure that you have a heat source (a burner) that can adequately boil a large volume. You will also need a way to chill down your large volume; something like a wort chiller.

    Cheers!
     
  14. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    Ok, then start the batch with 5.5 gallons of water, by the time you add the malt and boil for an hour you will be down to 5.25 gallons.

    Also, I woudl suggest grabbing a copy of Palmers "How to Brew" its a great book full of good info. A bit dry at times, but chock full of information.
     
  15. mrand01

    mrand01 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 New Jersey

    We definitely have a good enough heat source, but I'm not sure I understand how wort chillers work. It looks like you need a hose hookup, which in an apartment is kind of difficult...
     
  16. olympuszymurgus

    olympuszymurgus Initiate (0) Nov 24, 2009 California

    You can also hook one up to a sink.
     
  17. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2011 Ohio
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    This was my first thought as well. Hot wort will throw off a gravity reading
     
  18. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    This. I built my own in 15 minutes with items at home depot. Took longer to find the right size parts than to assemble it. (I'm stubborn and don't like to ask for help at stores)
     
  19. mrand01

    mrand01 Initiate (0) Aug 2, 2010 New Jersey

    I see this mentioned everywhere, but I don't have a sink in my apartment that will accept that kind of fitting. Every faucet is "designer" in some way.
     
  20. mjshearer1

    mjshearer1 Initiate (0) Dec 16, 2011 Michigan

    Not to threadjack, but since the OP asked, I too am looking to just do full boils right off the bat instead of having to screw around with partials and potentially substandard beer, however, I also have a kit that calls for a partial. Is there a way to modify the kit/ingredients in order to make it a full boil, or is it just as simple as putting in 5 gallons of water initially instead 2? I would think that if you just arbitrarily upped the water by three gallons, you'd end up diluting it beyond the appropriate ratio of water/ingredients in the kit. Or is it a moot point since you wind up adding the water after the boil anyways?

    EDIT: I think the question was answered in the time it took me to type this out. If I'm reading correctly, this is not an issue and as long as you have the burning capacity?
     
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