large quantity of bourbon county for big boy bottles

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  1. Enochase04

    Enochase04 Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2014 Ohio

    Was looking at a situation where I would offer a case of bourbon county and two vanilla rye and wondering if the quantity could match up to the quality in some bottles.

    Blaeber and or 50n4e

    Assassin and kbbs

    Ba abraxas and dbh

    Am I reaching for stars or would any of this be feesable. ...thanks fir any advice
     
  2. HawkeyePA

    HawkeyePA Initiate (0) Jan 7, 2014 Iowa

    I'm sure there have been many, but one that I know of is 1 case of BCBCS for a BVDL. Hope that helps.
     
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  3. cfh64

    cfh64 Pooh-Bah (2,070) Aug 16, 2005 Texas
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    Personally, I think Assassin AND kbbs is out of the equation but maybe split it up like 2 Vanilla Ryes for Assassin? BA Abraxas and DBH for the case and 2 Vanillas might be feasible. Blabaer probably not but 50n4e for the case and 2 Vanilla Ryes would probably get done IMO. Part of the problem is Vanilla Rye isn't even out yet so its hard to tell.

    Take all of that with a grain of salt. I don't trade as much as I used to and even then I seemed to be off a good percentage of the time. I'm also in the minority because I have traded "whales" for quantity of lesser "whales" on several occasions. I'm not a ticker and more often than not I'm not blown away by the more hyped up beers so I'd rather have quantity of what I know I will like. Thats just me though.
     
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  4. hiimrichie

    hiimrichie Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2012 California

    Blaeber and/or 50n4e = probably no chance, unless it is an international trade.

    Assassin and KBBS = probably no chance. KBBS trades far too high.

    BA Abrax and DBH = tough but maybe, it has to be the right set of eyes though.

    BCBS and Vanilla will see distro [same footprint as BCBS and Backyard did last year], so most people that have the above bottles will be able to land BCBS and Vanilla.
     
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  5. HighLowJack

    HighLowJack Savant (1,230) Jun 5, 2013 Massachusetts
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    quantity deals happen but you are short here. I've been on both sides of them. I traded Fou Foune for a bunch of Heady Topper.

    I would be thinking around 30 BCBCS for a bottle like KBBS. or, maybe 8 bottles of Vanilla Rye. I dunno but it's a lot and if you are offering BCBS instead of BCBCS you probably need to offer at least 2x as many bottles.

    so, you would need multiple cases. I would guess around 3 cases of BCBS might get you a KBBS or some bottles like that. good luck shipping that :slight_smile:
     
  6. dmbforever

    dmbforever Initiate (0) May 8, 2013 Wisconsin
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    I agree with the assessment above in that it takes a ridiculous amount of beer in quantity for a bottle like KBBS, but from a $$ perspective, its sickening. (3) cases of BCBS on average is $360.00 (using $20.00 as the average for a (4) pack) + shipping costs for (3) cases of beer all for (1) $12.00/12oz bottle.
     
  7. Graviz

    Graviz Initiate (0) Feb 26, 2012 Colorado



    This ^^^^^ makes me sick. All these "no chance" blows my mind. To dbmforever's point it makes no sense. I would much rather have 26 extremely solid beers instead of one solid beer. One of my buddies runs a local Pub and hosts tastings there. He knows about good beer and can appreciate it. One guy brought a Blaeber and my buddy thought it was good but not mind blowing. The guy who brought it went in to how rare it was and hyped it up. Because he didn't know about it I guess he couldn't taste the "rare"? IMO the whole rare game is killing good beer.

    To the OP, don't trade all that good beer away for a single bottle. At the end of the day it's just a beer, not the lost ark.

    /Rant
     
  8. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Sad that 72 bottles of Bcbs might as in might net 1 single Kbbs. No beer in the world would tempt me to pay that.
     
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  9. crowellbw

    crowellbw Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2010 Washington

    For 72 BCBS, I would let anyone choose 5 bottles from my cellar no questions asked
     
  10. hiimrichie

    hiimrichie Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2012 California

    Not sure why it blows your mind. Sure, it sucks. But most people that are holding on to a KBBS or Blabaer don't want to trade it for a quantity of a beer that they can pick up at a Bevmo or any other liquor store in a few weeks (Black Friday).

    OP should just go into iso:ft and offer up the above deals and hopefully get something set up.
     
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  11. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Do folks really do trades like this? Man if you want to try Assassin so badly, and don't have the ammo to trade for it, and have to offer up stupid trades like the one you contemplate, might be time for a reality check. There are few enough stouts twice as good as BCBS or BCBCS (arguably none, but...) and there are zero, zilch, nada none that are 48 times as good.
     
  12. Yohann

    Yohann Zealot (744) Apr 29, 2014 Wisconsin
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    From one angle I agree with you, but the cold, hard reality is that there are only so many days in a week, and you can drink only so much beer in a day (well, and still function), so beyond a certain point quantity is useless.

    The way I look at it, there are two things I spend when I drink a beer: money and time, and both are limited.
     
  13. cavedave

    cavedave Grand Pooh-Bah (4,157) Mar 12, 2009 New York
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    Good point. But from another point of view, many stouts undergo some wonderful changes in a good cellar, even in a good fridge, over the years. That is if you have enough to pull them regularly and enjoy them as they do. A case of BCBS every year could be a 15 year vertical tasting at some point.
     
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  14. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    I'm fairly ignorant of the Whales of the stout world, but I don't think you could convince me any stout is markedly better than BCBS. Oh yea you might have a preference one over the other, but anything that blows Bcbs out if the water I would have to see to believe. I can say HT and Abrasive blow dipa X out of the water depending on the brew, but between beers like both mentioned and say Dinner or Bodhi or Double Sunshine you may have a preference, but there isn't one you could pluck out and say it's head and shoulders above another. I feel more comfortable with IPAs than stouts in this regard, but I'd rather have 12 Abrasives than 4 HT and vice versa, the trade value of Kbbs makes my kinda cringe, if I had one I'd easily flip it for 24 Bcbs, no need to ask for 3 cases, and get reeeeejected.
     
  15. ig88b

    ig88b Crusader (482) Jun 18, 2009 Missouri
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    For reference, I traded a mixed case ('12 and '13) of BCBS internationally for a '14 Blabaer 750.
     
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  16. pmoney

    pmoney Initiate (0) Apr 15, 2011 Illinois

    If I were to even think about trading a DBH, it would probably take 3 Vanilla Rye.
     
  17. mlhyatt

    mlhyatt Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 Georgia

    And then round out the box with bcbcs.
     
  18. MOVERTON1284

    MOVERTON1284 Initiate (0) Jul 23, 2014 Alabama

    I agree with the sentiment, trade values for some stuff is mind blowing. Please don't trade 30 beers for 1, much less 72. That is nuts and I think it is crap that people are trying to trade **** like that. I get that it is rare, but if you have already had it then pass it on for a few good bottles and let others try it. This all started around sharing, not trying to screw your fellow beer lover.

    I can see the other side, if someone was offering all these beers for 1, why not take it? I would personally feel I was taking advantage of someone by doing a trade like that. I had an opportunity to go over $4$ for WB CanCan, and I just could not do it. I bet I had 5 people message me asking, "hey man what do you get for those CanCans, not really looking to trade mine unless I can get a lot for them".....
     
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