Patriotic Beer Drinkers

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by beachfirebrews, Mar 2, 2012.

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  1. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Like the car industry comparison. Ownership makes sense as to whether a beer is domestic or foreign.
    Sure, ignorance is a major factor in all this confusion but its hard to educate when so many are so proudly wilfully ignorant.
    People play the patriotic card not just because they're proud of their country but because they like the security of aligning themselves with something everyone else loves and is easy to find. Its just one less thing to worry about in life. And in the world today there seems to be a hell of a lot to worry about.
     
  2. podunkparte

    podunkparte Initiate (0) Nov 14, 2009 Washington

    Hell, it's celebrated. Look at the Right side of politics. Tea Party, Evangelism, etc. We learn things over time as a culture. As we learn things, we change things. Certain parts of our culture are afraid of change because it challenges their paradigm (worldview). It's sad.

    No offense, people who may or may not fall under the wide umbrella I just opened up.
     
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  3. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Yep. And ignorance seems like its being celebrated the world over. But on the other hand there's also too much change for change sake.
    Nothing a decent craft/cask beer wouldn't solve though.
     
  4. LaneMeyer

    LaneMeyer Initiate (0) Mar 20, 2011 California

    Nothing in this country is 100% American. More than half of everything you own is made in China. Everything you bought was shipped, powered by oil from the Middle East, most likely driven in a foreign made Truck. I think the notion of labeling products as 'American' or whatever is completely outdated.
     
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  5. Chickenhawk9932

    Chickenhawk9932 Pooh-Bah (2,855) Jul 19, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    The corn is certainly coming from the U. S.
     
  6. Chickenhawk9932

    Chickenhawk9932 Pooh-Bah (2,855) Jul 19, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    The company was founded by a German immigrant probably paying homage to the homeland. This discussion reminds me of V. S. Naipaul.
     
  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Ha, ha...I knew that "winking smiley" icon after that comment wouldn't work!

    Anheuser-Busch began when German-born Eberhard Anheuser took over a small St. Louis brewery and later hired his son-in-law, German-born Adolphus Busch. Neither came from Budweis or from Bohemia.

    In the 1870's, Busch and Carl Conrad, a marketer of alcoholic beverages, developed a beer for Conrad's company in the style of the "Bohemian" style lagers/pilsners that were all the rage in Europe, using US available ingredients. They named the beer after the city of Budweis in Bohemia where beers of that style were popular, similar to how some beer styles are still referred to by the original brewing regions (pilsners, Dortmunders, Vienna lagers, etc). A number of breweries in the US would also brew beers they called "Budweiser" (style). in the early 1880's A-B took over the brand from the bankrupt Conrad and used the name as protected trademarked brand name and not just as a beer type/style, eventually preventing other US breweries from using the name after a number of lawsuits.
     
  8. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    (Uh-oh, looks like ability to "edit" is back down to a
    15 minute limit- shouldn't have gotten up for another cup of coffee...)

    (continued).... Of course, that didn't take care of the little matter of several breweries IN Budweis aka České Budějovice in the Czech Republic using the brand name "Budweiser"- that's taken a few more decades worth of lawsuit around the world, some won, some lost, as well as the recent purchase of the rights to the name from one of the Czech breweries by A-B-Inbev.
     
  9. 5thOhio

    5thOhio Pooh-Bah (1,571) May 13, 2007 South Carolina
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    Well, yeah, if he threw you a 'tude about it, then you were justified in your response.

    By the same token, if one enters a bar where taps are taken up by Bud, Bud Light, Miller, Miller Lite etc, one shouldn't have high expectations. The places I go to don't even serve American Adjunct lagers, so there's no confusion over "domestic" vs. "imported."
     
  10. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    What a f'ing idiot. Sadly, this isn't uncommon. Also I wish GABF would get their act together and boot BMC from the Great AMERICAN beer festival, or allow in beers like Bass Ale which are now made in the U.S. (though foreign owned).
     
  11. wcintula

    wcintula Initiate (0) May 2, 2010 New York

    On that note, Beck's just started coming out of Newark as well. The twelve packs now boast "German Quality" as opposed to something to the effect of "America's #1 Import." So Beck's can now have a shot at GABF.
     
  12. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Pretty sure foreign-owned US breweries were always allowed at the GABF - Fred Koch in the early '80's when they were owned by the UK's Vaux comes to mind, Latrobe/Rolling Rock participated when it was owned by Labatt, and I imagine that Indian-owned Mendocino beers have been entered in the past.

    As for beers, both Miller's Lowenbrau and Coors' Killians, both foreign brands brewed under license at the time, have won GABF medals.
     
  13. happy4hoppybeer

    happy4hoppybeer Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2009 Pennsylvania


    I would say the commie Left side of the aisle is more the case. Anti-Christian, anti-white, anti-male, hate freedom and Anti-American Left-Wing is more willfully ignorant.
     
  14. Etan

    Etan Initiate (0) Jul 11, 2011 Wisconsin

    Hey man, I think I recognize you from the John Birch Society forums! Same username?
     
  15. happy4hoppybeer

    happy4hoppybeer Initiate (0) Nov 19, 2009 Pennsylvania


    Who??? What??
     
  16. beachfirebrews

    beachfirebrews Devotee (344) Nov 10, 2011 Michigan
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    at any rate, I think this sums everything up. this is what we should really be drinking.

     
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