To pair or not to pair

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by JackRWatkins, Nov 7, 2014.

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  1. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    I was wondering if somebody could help me with a question.
    When cooking with a given beer, do you pair that food with the same beer that you cooked the dish with. I'm aware that this may very well be a matter of opinion, but I'd like to hear some differing ones on if so why or at the very least how to pair a different beer w/a food cooked with a specific one
     
  2. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2007 Pennsylvania

    You can serve whatever you like but it's pretty fail safe that serving the beer (or wine) that you cooked w/ will not clash w/ the dish. The only thing I might change is for instance if I cooked w/ an average to slightly above average stout I might wanna serve my guests a great stout w/ the meal; but one w/ a similar scale as to not wack things outta balance.
     
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  3. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    Tonight I'm making flank steak served in a Framboise marinade, I'm gonna serve it with Gulden draak and chocolate cake for desert so we'll see how that goes
     
  4. yemenmocha

    yemenmocha Grand Pooh-Bah (4,116) Jun 18, 2002 Arizona
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    There's no rule on this, as far as I know. See it as an opportunity to explore. Try the included beer as a paired beer. Try other beers. See what works best for your palate and preferences. Cheers
     
  5. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    well the framboise flank steak was great and Gulden Draak went very well with it so at the very least we now know that that will work well
     
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  6. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2007 Pennsylvania

    What about a Gulden Draak marinade?;]
     
  7. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    that would probably be great too, I we had not consumed all of it i'd be inclined to give that a try, I'm sure it would be delicious
     
  8. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2007 Pennsylvania

    Yeah Gulden Draak is sweet so the sugars in the marinade might caramelize nicely on the grill. Garlic and blue cheese mash potatoes on the side.
     
  9. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    For whatever reason I almost never pair the meal with the beer I cooked with. Unless its homebrew, in which case, its probably the only kind I have on hand.
     
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  10. Smakawhat

    Smakawhat Grand High Pooh-Bah (7,191) Mar 18, 2008 Maryland
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    You can, but you don't have to.

    It's sometimes an easy out, but there is no fast and hard rule.
     
  11. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    interesting, cite me an example, so I can see what you are doing instead, I mean, is it on purpose, or you just happen not to?
     
  12. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    Its more of just happenstance. Here are a few examples:
    -Maple Stout BBQ Sauce for some ribs using Sam Smith Imperial Stout, but I only bought one bottle for the sauce. The meal I ate with an Amber (Kirkland brand, don't hate me).
    -Bacon and Beer Mac n' Cheese. Used homebrewed Pale Ale in the mac. Then I brought it to a friends house and we drank DFH 60minute with it.
    -Chili with Homebrewed Oatmeal Stout. Ate it for days later on hotdogs, in bowls, omelets, etc. Usually paired it with a Cali Common or Pale Ale Homebrew.
     
  13. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2007 Pennsylvania

    @ssam - Were you trying to pair or were you just drinking what you like?
    Thanks
     
  14. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    sadly, I live where I cannot get any Dogfish Head stuff, it's depressing, I love doing beer chili but I often feel like the beer doesn't have enough of a flavoring effect to justify using it, I used guinness once and maudite the other time, it was good on both occasions
     
  15. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    Well I used a skillet but it would probably work better honestly, we did potatoes with irish garlic and herb butter and white cheddar.
     
  16. JackRWatkins

    JackRWatkins Maven (1,472) Nov 3, 2014 Georgia
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    for me I know I always try to pair when I am having something that's even remotely above swill just because anytime I don't think about it, the results are disastrous so I try to avoid as many negative combinations as possible, for me at least you have to put a bare minimum some thought into it
     
  17. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    Well first of all the two are definitely not mutually exclusive. Having said that, I believe ambers to be the best pairing for bbq, and PAs or IPAs with mac n cheese is a revelation.
     
  18. Chinon01

    Chinon01 Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2007 Pennsylvania

    @ssam - The act of choosing to pair and not to certainly are two different acts; even if the resultant combination works for you.
     
  19. ssam

    ssam Pundit (997) Dec 2, 2008 California

    I don't understand you. The OP asks if there was ever a time when we paired a dish with beer as an ingredient with a different beer. I offered up a few examples. The bbq sauce on the ribs using Sam Smith Imperial Stout was paired with an amber, because I find ambers to be the most complimentary paring to bbq in pretty much any case (even when there is stout in the sauce). I love the pairing of an IPA with mac n cheese, but I prefer to use a normal PA in my beer and bacon mac n cheese because the cooking draws out more bitterness from a heavily hopped beer. So yes, they worked for me. Becuase a) they pair well together and b) because I like them.

    Do you pair meals with beers you don't like?
     
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