It's OK to Drink BMC

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  1. ernieb

    ernieb Initiate (0) Jun 27, 2013 Illinois

    It's OK for you to drink it... But not me.

    Seriously, after having craft beer, I despise the taste of BMC. But that's me. I don't mind in the slightest if someone else like it. I have many craft beer friends, and I don't know any that are "switch hitters", but acknowledge that some people are. Although I doubt it's anywhere near 50%.

    We can dislike like the taste of BMC, and we can dislike the heavy handed practices that they are rumored to espouse, but if you like their beer... Enjoy it! We don't have to all like the same things.
     
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  2. JoeSpartaNJ

    JoeSpartaNJ Zealot (691) Feb 5, 2008 New Jersey

    Why do people get so butthurt on what others drink? It's BeerAdvocate, not CraftAdvocate.

    Sometimes I want complexity, sometimes I want easy drinking. I dont need to have my mind and palette blown every time I feel like having a beer. So some days its Miller Lite, some days its (insert your favorite IPA, Stout, Porter, etc.)

    BMC and craft both have their place. It just may not be in your fridge.

    On a side note, if you are strictly a craft drinker and enjoy any beverage from Dunkin Donuts, you have problems.....coffee accented dish water. My personal opinion of course.
     
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  3. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    I am not particularly a fan of the AAL beers brewed specifically by the BMC breweries.

    Some AAL and AAAL (American Amber Adjunct Lager) beers that I enjoy drinking from time to time are: Genny Bock, Yuengling Oktoberfest, Yuengling Lord Chesterfield Ale, Shiner Bock, etc.

    Cheers to @Eriktheipaman for this thread!
     
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  4. BoomKentucky

    BoomKentucky Zealot (675) Mar 22, 2013 Kentucky

    For me the only point I see of drinking BMC lagers is to get drunk on the cheap. If you like it you like but I frankly don't care for them. I don't really care to get dunk, I usually only drink 1 beer a night maybe 2 every now and then so there is no reason for me to drink their stuff.
     
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  5. BeerHistoryGuy

    BeerHistoryGuy Initiate (0) Oct 15, 2014 Illinois

    One thing I don't understand is that many talk about craft brews as always being "heavy" or "hoppy," as if that is what makes them craft. Wheat beers, stouts, porters, and even lagers and pilsners are available from many craft brewers (certainly lagers). And, when I've been in the mood for a quality lager, I put up a few of my craft favorites against Milwaukee or St. Louis anytime, anyplace. Craft brewing usually means taking the time to *craft* the beer, not *fill it with hops and make it bitter as hell*. It just happens that many hop heads like myself get quite a few choices.

    Didn't Miller Lite proclaim it was "triple hops brewed?" *cough, choke, ahem*

    With that being said, people can do what they want. I have kids, so the occasional trip to McDonalds does occur, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't much prefer a much higher quality burger. If I'm at a concert, 4th of July event, or something like that and I really want a beer and all they have is BMC, I'll do it (although usually I'll just have a lemonade, lol). If they have Blue Moon, Amberbock, or something -- I'll at least do that. Or, if they have Guinness I'll definitely do that.

    So I don't see any reason to demean someone's choice, but I just can't understand how anyone that truly loves beer can drink a Bud and think "yummy." They are not wrong for thinking a Bud is tasty, but I just can't understand it. So, I think most on here are probably in my camp -- just speculating, but I also don't think its right to begrudge someone for enjoying a mass produced beer, if that is what they like.

    As I've said, the numbers speak for themselves. IN 1994, California had 84 breweries, or four shy of what existed in the entire country in 1984 (88 total breweries). Now, we are above 3,000. Hell, from 1970 to 1978, imports enjoyed 300% growth in sales compared to domestic which grew at 25%. I think it's pretty obvious that many clamored to get a better brew, and the results are obvious -- it's working. People still like things that taste good, and that's why it's a resounding success.

    Remember, Busch won a world beer taste test (something like that) in Paris in, I think, the 1890s? [Edit: It was 1878.] There was a time when the current macro brews were craft brews..they were just trying to make it big. And, they did care about their taste. But then.....

    Just my $.02 worth (if that).
     
  6. TongoRad

    TongoRad Grand Pooh-Bah (3,884) Jun 3, 2004 New Jersey
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    I pretty much feel the same way, and I have definitely had some beers done in the AAL style by regional independent brewers that made me appreciate them for what they were. The big guys- I just don't get that feeling with their beers.

    Maybe it would be fun to actually put it to the test one day- mix a few Straub, Naragansett, etc. in with actual B M and C in a blind taste test and see how I do.

    ETA: since McD's was brought up I'll also add that I feel the same way about fast food. From a local independent it is usually so much better than from a chain, and I can definitely appreciate it on that level.
     
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  7. spacecake9

    spacecake9 Pooh-Bah (2,202) Apr 26, 2014 Illinois
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    Drinking beer is not a requirement for me. If good beer is available I drink it. If BMC is all that is available, I drink water. I don't eat lousy food and I don't drink lousy beer. If you want to, that's ok by me.
     
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  8. Premo88

    Premo88 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,682) Jun 6, 2010 Texas
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    Of my 240-plus reviews, Budweiser is my leader in rDev -- gave it a 3.59 which produces a +53.4% rDev.

    What's that get me?
     
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  9. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    It might also have been deleted because this topic has come up before. Ad nauseum, some might argue.

    But OK, it's a new idea to the OP, and apparently this dead horse hasn't been sufficiently beaten to death previously. My apologies if I come across as a bit sarcastic...

    "It's OK to drink BMC." Yep, it is, and I think most of us know that. Even those of us who despise BMC products are generally happy to acknowledge that. It's also quite OK not to drink BMC, and I happen to think that it's even OK to maybe tell people... politely of course... why they despise BMC. Unfortunately, it's a fact of life that when you tell someone you dislike a partiulcar beer that they happen to think is the bees knees, often times they'll take it personally, and assume your comments about the crappy nature of the beer they're drinking applies to them as well. Personally, I'd feel much more concerned about this reaction if I hadn't over the years heard macro swill drinkers tell me that what I'm drinking isn't real beer, or it somehow shows a lack of taste and refinement on my part, or even in some cases might reflect on my lack of masculinity.

    "In my job at a tasting room I see a lot of people who are embarrassed to admit they enjoy and primarily drink BMC." I've encountered this reaction as well, and I find it kind of interesting. I've never met or heard a craft beer drinker who was embarrassed about drinking craft beer. At most they might at a party be apologetic about the fact they enjoy craft beer, and so that case of natural lite the host has on hand will have to be consumed by others at the frat party, not him or her. Regardless, who cares. I don't see it as my role to assure macro drinkers (unless they happen to be friends in need of reassurance) that the fact they like bud doesn't mean they're some sort of subversive misfit from outer mongolia. I usually limit my comments to what I think is pretty obvious: "you should drink what you like, and if what you like is BMC, then drink all the BMC you want or can." If I'm in an especially reassuring mood, I might even point out how smart it is for them to drink BMC from a budget standpoint, as they're undoubtedly saving all kinds of money by buying Busch lite by the case instead of pliny by the 6 pack.

    "Seeing stories on here about how people buying macro swill is annoying to them is disappointing." Why is that? I recognize the fact that people on BA are some of the most passionate beer consumers on the planet, some of whom go to great lengths to sample extremely rare and unusual beer. Someone who is willing to stand in line overnight for a special beer release probably has a very difficult time empathizing with someone who gets drunk drinking a case of curs lite tall boys at a frat party. Personally, my feeling is each to their own... if that's how you best enjoy your beer, then by all means go for it. Still, human nature being what it is, I can see how this sort of behavior might cause some craft beer drinker to snicker or crack a joke at the frat boy's expense. I can't say this sort of behavior bothers me much (it certainly isn't something I find disappointing). I do ask that if you're going to make a joke about those who think macro swill is the be all and end all, could you please at least make it funny and clever?

    "If you are passionate about something, be it beer or not, take the time to share that passion and show people why you feel the way you do." This is the part of your post that has me confused. You make this statement, right after going through all the reasons why you wish craft beer drinkers wouldn't act in this manner.

    Frankly, I think you're reading far too much into some of the posts you read on BA when it comes to member's feelings about BMC. A lot of times people on here are just having fun, making comments, jokes and derogatory statements that they would likely never say in person to friends and family.

    I'm sorry, but in the hierarchy of problems in my life, worrying about the tender feelings of BMC consumers just isn't very near the top of my list of concerns.
     
  10. zsk

    zsk Initiate (0) Jan 13, 2006 Ohio

    YOU ARE SO RIGHT! ALL of the BMC haters would bitch and whine if we said ONLY drink BMC. I believe BAs should drink what they like. Some BAs want everybody to know they are cool cause they would die before they drank that BMC shit! Not me!! Drink what you like and RESPECT (ALL) BEER BAs.
     
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  11. Brushkanna

    Brushkanna Savant (1,097) Jun 27, 2011 New Jersey

    Ok you have some good thoughts, but you don't really drink Coor lite on purpose do you?
     
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  12. Gemini6

    Gemini6 Savant (1,199) Oct 5, 2013 Michigan

    This had me laughing, but I also think it is a great analogy. Just because you don't wish to spend an hour or two sipping 3oz of espresso every morning doesn't mean you are "not a real coffee drinker" because you "only care about the caffeine."
     
  13. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    I must have struck a cord with this one. I do think were on the same page overall and probably being nit picky at this point. I'm sorry if this thread has come up a lot before, but I had not seen it and the reason that it said it got deleted before was due to the video. None the less it looks like a lot of people are interested in discussing it.

    It's not a new idea to me at all, but it's something I like to constantly remind myself of. I get so involved with having beer part or every aspect of my life it's easy to get caught up in it and not realize 99.9% of other people are not nearly into it as I am. So pointing this fact out from time to time has done me well and I thought it would make for an interesting topic to speak about out loud for a change.
     
  14. dennis3951

    dennis3951 Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2008 New Jersey

    No doubt about that. Remember the name of this site is Beer advocate not craft Beer advocate.
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    John,

    My apologies in advance if I missed you commenting on this point but what I find most objectionable about craft beer drinkers is their less than charitable attitude that is sometimes evidenced in their opining about BMC type drinkers. The reality is that the vast majority of beer drinkers worldwide prefer light colored and light flavored beers. When a person (like a BA person) addresses this topic in a ‘holier than thou’ attitude, this is not beer advocacy. I personally prefer to recognize that the vast majority of beer drinkers prefer to drink beers very different from the types of beers that I personally prefer to drink without judgment. I fully recognize that some BAs will use terminology like “lowest common denominator” but I personally do not think it is appropriate to have an air of superiority here. I suspect that you and I have differing views on this aspect but I just wanted to register my viewpoint.

    Cheers!

    Jack
     
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  16. Belial

    Belial Crusader (425) Aug 9, 2005 Illinois

    i'm drinking a goose island honkers ale right now its still one of my favorite beers. i drink a 40 oz of mickey's before every NIU football game because of a stupid tradition started in college. i'll always drink some bmc products along with craft
     
  17. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    pretty weird to advocate for shit. i mean, you don't find a great workout and then advocate for eating pizza in bed, or invent the computer and advocate for the abacus.

    BMC is weird, watery, slightly sour shit. more power to you if you like it, that's none of my business, but you're not going to hear me be like, "buy this great IPA! and also be on the lookout for this other shitty IPA! buy it too--IT'S OKAY!"
     
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  18. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    I don't drink BMC because I want other things instead. Why buy Budwieser when I can have Grain Belt? Same kind of beer, same price, more respect for Schell's than A-B.
     
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  19. something_is_brewing

    something_is_brewing Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2014 Massachusetts

    I didn't see anyone mention it to you, but many of the worlds top IPA's are using GMO dextrose, AKA corn sugar, and many homebrewers are using it to bottle condition their beers. Hope you are not one of those IPA/DIPA crushing fools!
     
  20. bergbrew

    bergbrew Initiate (0) Jan 12, 2004 Minnesota

    Would the same hypocrisy exist for one who drinks Goose Island, thus supporting AB-Inbev?:grinning:
     
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