Beers changing flavor after a few weeks

Discussion in 'Homebrewing' started by FFreak, Nov 21, 2014.

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  1. fuzzbalz

    fuzzbalz Pundit (953) Apr 13, 2002 Georgia

    I just add hops "commando" and then cold crash for 2 to 3 days at about 35 degrees, I was using a mesh bag over my auto siphon but had what I thought was an issue with oxidation one time so I quit. I have yet to have any issues with cold crashing, I use a plastic bucket and If I have a blow off tube on I remove it and put an airlock on, never really noticed much star san being sucked up but and I haven't had any oxidization issues, but to be fair I do keg now so.....
     
  2. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    I do this routinely; however ... have never seen any evidence of CO2 breaking the surface (up to 45") so I doubt this scrubbing technique works (AS SEEN ON TV) in as little 15"!
    Agreed ... if "not much of a self-life" means more than 10 weeks at room-temperature.
     
  3. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Curious about your process b/c I've never-ever had a 1-3 weeks-in-the-bottle home-brewed IPA taste anywhere near commercial quality. Even commercial craft breweries don't have their product on store shelves that young.
     
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  4. Tebuken

    Tebuken Initiate (0) Jun 6, 2009 Argentina


    Me 2
     
  5. alanforbeer

    alanforbeer Crusader (455) Jan 29, 2011 South Carolina

    15' was the recommendation in Dave Miller's "Homebrewing Guide." A bit old-school, I know (1995) but still a good read.

    When I bottle, my goal is simply to move the beer from one vessel to another with as little agitation as possible, I've never really tried letting the caps rest that long (45'+) before crimping. Perhaps I'll give it a try next time around.
     
  6. JohnSnowNW

    JohnSnowNW Initiate (0) Feb 6, 2013 Minnesota

    That's not exactly true. Lots of hoppy beers hit shelves within a week of bottling/canning, however, I don't recall seeing a bottle conditioned beer that young.
     
  7. FFreak

    FFreak Savant (1,065) Nov 10, 2013 Vermont

    The 1-3 weeks I'm talking about would be 1-3 weeks after bottling. I usually taste my first bottle after 7-10 days and if it's fully carbed, then I'll start drinking them at that point. If not, I'll wait another week or so. But the degradation in taste seems to occur anywhere from 3-5 weeks after I've started drinking the bottles. They're still good beer, just not 'great' like they were during the first few weeks. The darkening color is the first thing I tend to notice.

    Yes, drinking the bottles faster would definitely take care of the problem! I try to give away a bunch while it's good, but then tend to not want to give it away after it's oxidized.
     
  8. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    While that may true literally ... it also may not account for the time spent bulk-conditioning before bottling.
     
  9. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    15 hours or 15"?

    Here all along I thought it was ' for hours " for minutes and ° for seconds.
     
  10. alanforbeer

    alanforbeer Crusader (455) Jan 29, 2011 South Carolina

    Sorry for the confusion. My mistake to use the notation for geographic coordinates (° degrees 'minutes "seconds) in a homebrewing forum.
     
  11. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Actually ... looks like I'm the one who's confused. ' indicate minutes and " are seconds.

    Sorry.
    Next round is on me.
     
  12. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    I've been interested in trying to cap on foam when I bottle. So in trying to create that while doing bottle conditioning. I primed my most recent batches and racked them to the bottle bucket a day before I actually bottled them. In my theorizing over it. It does two things, give a chance for everything to settle in. But also. In that time, I could see that there was also some carbonation occurring, because as I bottled them a bit of foam was forming over the course of the pour. Will see.
     
  13. FFreak

    FFreak Savant (1,065) Nov 10, 2013 Vermont

    Just bottled my most recent batch and I just could not sit and wait the 30-45 minutes recommended in the thread. I might have got 20 minutes on some bottles.

    I'm beginning to lean more towards a slow moving infection as the cause of this problem. Although the beers are not displaying the typically disgusting off flavors from infection, the color change has become disturbing. One beer has taken on a greyish tone, darkened from a golden copper-yellow to a greyish-dark brown and I've started to drain pour them after taking a few sips.
     
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