de Garde Quarterly Release

Discussion in 'Northwest' started by deGardebrewing, Nov 16, 2014.

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  1. Kurmaraja

    Kurmaraja Initiate (0) May 21, 2013 California
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    Howd it taste? I think beer is more than bubbles ...
     
  2. Phobicsquirrel

    Phobicsquirrel Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2013 Oregon

    I'd agree but there's a large thread that disagrees.....
     
  3. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    Just to break up this conversation about uncarbonated beer, I think all who went owe de grade a huge thank you. Awesomely run event, extremely delicious de grade beers being poured and of course the guest bottles being shared were bordering on the side of ridiculous.

    Oh and it seems like most people cleaned up their neck beards. Solid outing all around - can't wait for the next one.
     
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  4. vurt

    vurt Grand Pooh-Bah (4,504) Apr 11, 2004 Oregon
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    Big Thanks to the folks at De Garde and everyone else who helped make the afternoon another terrific event out in Tillamook. We got there right at 2:00 and decided against waiting in the big line for bottles. An hour later, the line was a sliver of its previous length, and everything was still available. A very well run system indeed. Inside there were plenty of De Garde's finest offerings in bottles and on tap. Trevor was pouring some amazing things at the bottle table.

    (A small No Thanks to the people toting their whalez around with the labels pressed against their chests so that no one could see what they weren't sharing. Is this a new thing at bottle shares? Not cool.)
     
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  5. Phobicsquirrel

    Phobicsquirrel Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2013 Oregon

    I didn't see anyone not willing to share bottles. Many people were walking around with bottles but I think it was due to the huge amount of people near the table. I couldn't even get to it a few times and anything that was opened usually went fast. So those who where walking around or at barrels I think it worked better. Also I saw some big pours from left bottles and that isn't right. I think there was just too many people.
     
  6. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    This seems to be a chronic problem now (number of people in the barrel room), and I honestly have no idea what can be done about it. It's become almost de riguer to hear Trevor lamenting the crowd size, noting that he had no idea so many people would show up (come on now Trevor.... really? this surprised you?). The beers were amazing as always, and I know I had a great time, but crowd and line size inside the barrel room has become an increasing annoyance. When the maple samson was tapped, I didn't even bother to try to get in line. I knew I had no hope of getting a glass, and I had better things to do than spend a half hour or more hoping I might luck out and get a glass before the sixtel blew.

    That being said... major, major kudos to the crew handling the bottle release. This was a far cry from the anniversary party release, where I waited nearly 45 minutes and never saw the line budge an inch. I was near the end of the line on Saturday, and yet it still took not much more than a half hour to get to the cash register and get my beer. Very, very nicely done guys...
     
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  7. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    I think that is a gross exaggeration. Maple Sampson was tapped, I was by the bottles and walked back to the back taps and got served within 3 minutes. They ran people through efficiently.

    I find it extremely generous that I am not a member of de grade, yet i somehow received pours of Side Project, Jacki O's, and Jester King (plus de grade obvs). Breweries don't owe anyone anything, and the since of entitlement that I keep hearing on these threads (and at the party) has become increasingly annoying.

    just my two cents.
     
  8. Phobicsquirrel

    Phobicsquirrel Initiate (0) Oct 1, 2013 Oregon

    I don't think anyone feels entitled, but I get what John is saying. I didn't even get to try Earl because I didn't even know it was tapped. They should have either announced tappings or tap all the new stuff in the tap station not the front tap room as most people were not in there. It was a great event but was way too crowded. It got better 2 hours in and even better around 6. I love that so many people came but it was very crowded and felt like a mosh pit without crowd surfing and topless chicks with a thick layer of weed smoke.
     
  9. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    Sense of entitlement? Huhhh?

    It's "presumptuous" to wish the waits for a beer were shorter, and/or that the barrel room wasn't jammed pack with people?

    I waited in line for about 10 or 15 minutes to get a glass of Stone bu. No big deal, but the process was slow, possibly due to some of the problems the pourer was having with the cran bu foaming (she pouring both beers). The room was sooooo packed with people, it was often difficult to tell who was in line and who wasn't. The line for the Maple Sansom was at least twice the size of the Stone bu line, and as it wound through the crowd, back into the barrel room area, it was difficult to tell just how many folks were in line (but it was a lot!). I thought maybe it would die down after a bit, and then maybe I'd get a shot at the Maple, but by that time it was long gone. I did get to share some with a friend, so fortunately I was able to at least try it.

    I'm not suggesting it was unendurable, but it was often hard to move around in the barrel room due to the size of the crowd, and the lines, for some things, seemed to be overly long and winding some times. Just my opinion TheeWalrushunt.... sounds like you didn't encounter or notice any the things I found a bit annoying.
     
  10. oregonskibum

    oregonskibum Initiate (0) Mar 14, 2009 Oregon

    I miss the old tasting room, were one could simply cozy up to the bar and have a casual glass or two while complaining about being packed into a space meant for 15.
     
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  11. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    I understand what your saying. But I really think the way to go is not wait in line for bottles at the beginning. I was one of the first in the tap room - it was a handful of people waiting to get in at 2. A buddy of mine and I split pours so I was able to try stone, berry, dark harvest and beacoup desay and there were still only about 15 people in the barrel room.
    The bottle pouring was a bit crowded *understatement* (but you can't expect differently when they are personally pouring the quality of bottles that they were).

    I went outside a little before 4 to go to the bottle line and had my pick of every bottle besides Cafe Sampson.

    I guess I just have a bit different perspective and don't suffer from "fear of missing out" disease. I didn't have one beer that wasn't great or at least interesting and I enjoyed myself.

    And if you don't think there was/is a sense of entitlement at these things, then you need to look harder. From the moderate pushing at the bottle table to the over-seriousness by patrons - it was almost comical.

    All in all @John_M, I can't discount your experience. I'm not you. I just had a different perspective.
     
  12. John_M

    John_M Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,849) Oct 25, 2003 Washington
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    As it turned out, what you did was the way to go. If I had to do it again, that's what I would have done as well.

    But who knew what to expect with the bottle purchases? Last time I was at one of these events, I did pretty much exactly what you did this time (after waiting for 45 minutes in the bottle purchase line), and then went and bought bottles several hours later. I got some nice stuff, no doubt, but they had run out of 5 or 6 different beers by the time I got to the front of the line. As the line was moving very quickly this time around, I decided to stick it out, and hopefully get a full allotment of bottles (which I did). Unfortuantely, by the time I got back to the line for barrel room pours, it was already a mad house inside.

    Shrug. I saw the same thing you did inside (how could I not), but I guess I interpreted the scene differently. I've been to a number of similar release events over the years, and this is how it generally plays out. Folks are excited and passionate about what's on offer, and of course they want to try as many different things as possible. A lot of folks have driven or flown long distances to attend the event, so I think their excitement and attitude is understandable (and predictable). I didn't see that as a sense of entitlement, but I guess it's possible to see it that way.

    When I got to the front of the bottle purchase line, I made sure the crew working there knew how much better run things were this time around (IMHO), and how much I appreciated it. I got the impression they appreciated the positive feedback, and the guy who took my purchase told me that they were really trying to improve the process (very successfully I thought). So it's apparent they're receptive to feedback, and are trying to make positive changes, where possible. Maybe in the future they could try to hold these events at a different, larger venue, especially if they're going to keep on getting such huge crowds (which I think is likely). That would certainly help, and of course if they could get more volunteers working the tap lines, that would probably help as well. I think hoping or expecting the attitude of the attending crowd to change is probably not very realistic. :-)
     
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  13. m4ttj0nes

    m4ttj0nes Zealot (611) Feb 21, 2012 Oregon
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    I loved watching a group of people with their hands wrapped around their glasses frantically trying to warm their collective pours all the while scoffing at any of the other patrons that were embarrassing themselves by drinking cold beer.
     
  14. dirtylou

    dirtylou Grand Pooh-Bah (3,352) May 12, 2005 Oklahoma
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    It was pretty awesome being at DeGarde exactly one week prior to this event. There were 2 other people there during the 90ish minutes i was there.
     
  15. crowellbw

    crowellbw Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2010 Washington

    My only complaint would be the way the lines were organized. Lines shouldn't flow into other lines and there should be a natural 'recovery' area where one enjoys the pours. I didn't even attempt to go to the bottle pour area simply because I couldn't see any pattern in that madness. It would be tough to do any better in the two rooms they used. From the looks of things though, it seemed like they are also renting the warehouse right next door (since there were barrels in there), which to me would be the natural location to do this event. In there, looked like 2000 sq ft of unobstructed floor space rather than the 2000 sq ft of clutter in the current setup. I don't mean to sound like a negative nancy, but bar flow is one of the things that really gets to me and I tend to follow Occam's Razor in most instances: the simplest solution is the correct one.
     
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  16. Msudukie

    Msudukie Pundit (920) Oct 26, 2013 New York
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    I see they still have Bu Stone, Bu Berry, Hose, and Nelson Hose for sale at the brewery. Does anyone know if they have limits and how much longer they may last?
     
  17. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon

    I guarantee you they aren't expanding so they can have a 2000 sq ft banquet space. As for why it wasn't used this weekend, I'm guessing it's not fully built-out / permitted for uses other than storage at this point.

    I certainly do understand the frustration about flow and choke-points in the space, but I think people really need to keep in mind that it's a working brewery every day, and a party space 4 times a year. I vote for using the space efficiently to keep making beer at great prices.
     
  18. kscaldef

    kscaldef Initiate (0) Jun 11, 2010 Oregon

    Limits were lifted once everyone had a chance to get through the line on Saturday. I believe that will still be the case when the tasting room next opens (Friday, I guess?)
     
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  19. crowellbw

    crowellbw Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2010 Washington

    Definitely agree. The brewery is designed for efficiency in brewing, not efficiency in personal movement.
     
  20. anteater

    anteater Pooh-Bah (1,936) Sep 10, 2012 Oregon
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    A big big thank you to @deGardebrewing for what I think may have been the best beer event of my life.

    With the help of some friends I was able to try Bu Stone, Bu Berry, Cherry Raz Bu, Cafe Samson, Maple Samson, Abraxas, Abricot du Fermier, 4 Happiness, Colour Five, Omniscience and Proscelytism, Kollaborationsbier and 2012 Super Nebula to cap things off. Berry, Stone and Cherry Raz were among the best sours I've ever had (not just from de Garde).

    Quick note on Abricot du Fermier... besides thinking I would never get to try this 250 (?) bottle release, I was able to for $3. Assuming a modest 4 oz pour (surely I got more), that comes to $18 a bottle when they retailed at $30. Just ridiculous.

    Another quick note on Abricot du Fermier... Bu Stone blew it out of the water!
     
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