Dogfish Head Chicory Stout 2000 Vintage

Discussion in 'Cellaring / Aging Beer' started by krispyleaves, Jun 15, 2012.

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Do you think a 12 y/o Dogfish Head Chicory Stout is worth a buy?

  1. Try it!

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  2. Toss it.

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  1. krispyleaves

    krispyleaves Initiate (0) May 8, 2012

    So, I recently began work at a small wine and beer shop, and have been loving spending my days immersed in the culture. In digging through inventory and taking notes, I noticed a lone 6-pack of Dogfish Head's Chicory Stout...from the year 2000. I know Dogfish's beers are widely considered to be good candidates for aging, but I wouldn't think the low ABV (5.2%) and chicory/coffee additions would hold up too well after 12 years. What do you think? Should I give it a try, or stay away from an almost certain drain pour?
     
  2. drgarage

    drgarage Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2008 California

    Depends on price. I'd give it a shot for under $15.
     
  3. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    if you don't already have a good idea of what oxidation smells and tastes like, this will probably teach you.

    if it's not super expensive (which i can't imagine it is, unless the owners have a real misunderstanding about "cellaring beer"...), i think you should buy it since you're obviously curious. who knows what you'll think of it?
     
  4. Kopfschuss

    Kopfschuss Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2009 Oregon

    I say go for it and trade one this way.
     
  5. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    I'd imagine if you work there and tell the owner you found some 12 year old beer that likely didn't age well, they'll give you a hell of a deal on it. Go for it.
     
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  6. knightlypint

    knightlypint Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2012 New Jersey

    No friggin' way...

    I doubt DFH CS could survive 1 year, let alone 12.
     
  7. Eriktheipaman

    Eriktheipaman Pooh-Bah (2,303) Sep 4, 2010 California
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    See if the owner will just let you open it for the experience itself. I am the wine order writer at my store and am able to open up pretty much anything I'd like so at least I will know what I'm talking about to customers. I'm sure it depends on your boss though for sure.
     
  8. krispyleaves

    krispyleaves Initiate (0) May 8, 2012

    ***EDIT: I greatly appreciate all of this feed back! I came in to the store today and my memory did not serve me correctly! Turns out its a 2000 DFH Raison D'Etre so the question still stands, is this a drain pour or a hidden gem?!
     
  9. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    definitely more likely to be good than chicory stout, but my comment about oxidation still stands (going to taste like sherry/cardboard).

    personally, i don't like raison d'etre fresh or aged, but it's the kind of beer that people put away. give it a try, but maybe try to find some fresh to compare.
     
  10. knightlypint

    knightlypint Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2012 New Jersey

    Oh, that changes everything...:grimacing:
     
  11. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    My vote was yes with Chicory Stout...now that it is Raison d'Etre my vote is hell yes.
     
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  12. Rempo

    Rempo Initiate (0) Jan 18, 2010 Indiana

    Try it.
    Note the positive flavors.
    Sell the other five bottles at a markup.
    Become employee of the month.
     
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  13. mikehblack

    mikehblack Zealot (602) Feb 10, 2010 California
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    Just curious because I saw this recently, the six packs of Raison D'etre have an oval with "2000" on the front of the package, but it's referring to the year of an award or something. I was just in New York and saw these six packs everywhere with 2000 on the front. Is this what you are seeing at your shop?
     
  14. Hanzo

    Hanzo Initiate (0) Feb 27, 2012 Virginia

    That's a damn good point, six packs here have the same thing. I just assumed he was looking at actual bottling dates.
     
  15. Kopfschuss

    Kopfschuss Initiate (0) Aug 19, 2009 Oregon

    Preparing for let down in 3...2...
     
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  16. davey101

    davey101 Pooh-Bah (2,360) Apr 14, 2009 Connecticut
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    Sounds like it is just the award label. If it were a chicory stout I'd imagine it'd be pretty bad. I had a year old bottle that was pretty bland and the chicory was taking on some veggie qualities to it.

    Raison from 2000 sounds pretty awesome though...mmmmm
     
  17. krispyleaves

    krispyleaves Initiate (0) May 8, 2012

    This was actually the case sadly. When I first saw the six pack it had surfaced from some unknown corner of the store. Then I was looking at the bottles and found the bottling date. The pack is about a year old now but NOT the 12 I thought it was. Sigh.
     
  18. curly31989

    curly31989 Initiate (0) Apr 27, 2010 Colorado

    You're not the first to make that mistake.. A friend of mine did the same thing a while back.
     
  19. Pahn

    Pahn Initiate (0) Dec 2, 2009 New York

    i bet people do it with firestone walker beers. i think sucaba or one of those has 2010 really prominently printed somewhere (on the bottle cap maybe?). i'm not a detail memory person.
     
  20. harrymel

    harrymel Initiate (0) Dec 15, 2010 Washington

    Bottlecap is correct. Most of their beers have the 2010 World Beer Cup (IIRC) caps on 'em. Can be deceptive, particularly if you don't know where to look for their bottling dates.

    Bottling dates are located in black ink on the neck of the bottle FWIW.
     
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