Troegs Perpetual IPA

I always find it funny when people seem to get really upset when other people like a beer.

As for me, it's one of my favorite IPAs and wonderfully hoppy. I disagree with your assessment and I have drank a great deal of fresh IPAs from all over the country.

 

Those beers aren't available in western PA. I'll gladly give you my address for you to send growlers.

Good for you. I think everybody should homebrew. Pliny the Elder was the reason I started homebrewing in 2007 for opposite reasons. There are a lot of shitty IPAs out there. What was it about this one that sent you over the edge?

That would have been false though. The best way I can shorten that is to say "I only really like well made IPAs and Perpetual isn't one of them."

Really upset? I'm beside myself with grief over here. If you think Perpetual is wonderfully hoppy then you've been drinking the wrong fresh IPAs from all over the country.

A better name for this beer would be Identity Crisis.

 

I think I was just fed up with all the mediocre IPAs that are out there. Perpetual was a great disappointment based on the hype and thought I could do better. I have not bought one bottle or case of a commercial IPA after I started homebrewing.

 

I was disappointed by NN the 1st time I tried it because I was expecting a hop-forward IPA (there is a giant hop on the label) not an incredibly drinkable well balanced ale. Troegs should probably look at how they market these beers as they are both delicious and great beers but neither are really hoppy or bitter.

 

Nugget Nectar isn't hoppy? How many hoppier amber/red ales can you name?

 

Troegs Perpetual is an Imperial Pale Ale...not an India Pale Ale

 

An "Imperial Pale Ale" is an IPA. There was a rumor that they just called it an Imperial Pale Ale as opposed to India Pale Ale because they have been around for a while and have never labeled a non-Scratch beer an IPA. Not sure if that was ever confirmed.

 

It's hoppy for an Amber/Red which is one of the reasons I like it so much. My point is that a lot of people think it is an DIPA that comes out at the same time as Hopslam and they make side-by-side comparisons as if they are in the same genre. Anyone expecting a DIPA will be disappointed with NN at first sip.

As for Perpetual, it was love at first smell for me. Haters can hate, but I think that Troegs can make its mark on the genre with this one. The dank smell and taste combined with its drinkability and balance make it really unique beer.

 

Not to mince words/styles, but I was gonna say the same thing. I had one yesterday and when the hops didn't knock me over, I read the label more closely. "Imperial Pale Ale" to me implies a higher-alcohol pale ale, not a hoppier version of an already pretty hoppy India Pale Ale. Slightly-shady use of the IPA abbreviation if you ask me.

 

only other beer i like near as much as NN in that style is Imperial Red from Lag.

Excited to try perpetual... not expecting a hop bomb either

 

Why? They clearly state Imperial Pale Ale, correct? This reminds me of Ding (old user) who hated Sierra Nevada for using the acronym ESB to mean early spring beer, not extra special bitter.

I don't care what Troegs calls it, just keep making it. I don't see how someone can say it's not hoppy, that not the case. Can you say it's sweeter with a more malt forward profile than others, yes, but it's still hoppy as hell.

 

Ah, I see what you mean.

 

Hate to be so straightforward with this my friend, but what you've said here is absolutely wrong.

 

There's no such style as "Imperial Pale Ale," chieftain. If it's in Imperial Pale Ale, it's an IPA. The arguing over this is amusing to me.

 

Doesn't mean they can't call it that.
A bigger malt bill/higher alcohol pale ale is still a pale ale. It is not automatically an IPA. People who think everything has to fit into a 'style' amuse me.

 

Sure, they can call it whatever they want, but that doesn't mean they invented a new style. If they made a beer and called it an "Pale Porter" would you try to make up some definition for that style, too? Beers don't have to fall into a particular style but at that the same time a few words on a label do not invent a new style. An above poster said that the name "implies" something to them. That's the issue right there. It's not a real style. What does "Imperial Pale Ale" mean to you? If you have to pull something out of your ass to define it, then that's proof it has no meaning. Trying to explain to someone that it's not super hoppy because it's an Imperial Pale Ale is an not an IPA makes no sense.

Did you see my post above about how the name could very well have been an inside joke?

 

I never said they had invented a new style or even tried to, and I'm pretty sure they would say the same thing.
No, because I do not believe that every beer has to fit within some arbitrary governing body's definition of a category.

To me: a pale ale that has a bigger presence in it's pale ale-ness, be that higher alcohol or whatever.
Of course it has 'meaning'! That's preposterous!
If I saw this on the shelf, I would have a pretty good idea of what was intended by the brewer, style or no.

 

Agreed, however that still doesn't mean Imperial Pale Ale is a style or means anything other than IPA. Again, "to me" and "implies" are kinda sortas. Hell, the line between APA and IPA is blurry at best and some people don't even believe there is one. If you have to make up what it means, then it's quite obvious that it's a non-existent "style" and to correct someone on what characteristics an "Imperial Pale Ale" should have is what I find preposterous.

 

When you see something labeled "Imperial Brown Ale" or "India Brown Ale," do you know basically what they intended? I do, and I don't expect the same from each. And neither is a recognized style.

 

LOL! This x 100!