Bayernbiere Bought and Drunk

I thought this picture looked familiar and sure enough, one of the more established Swedish craft breweries, Oppigårds bryggeri, posted this video of a brewday at Gänstaller on december 9th where they apparently brewed one of their recipes. Will be interesting to see, and taste, the results from their visit.

 

Andechs Doppelbock. End thread.*

(*jess kiddin' )

 

Well this thread died a bit.

I enjoyed Schlenkerla Märzen the other night. A lot different overall smoke character than the Urbock which was the only other Schlenkerla beer I had before now. I thought the Märzen was a bit 'meatier' than the Urbock, which was almost like a purer campfire smoke.

I have the Eiche on deck for tonight, so I'm looking forward to that treat.

 

I don't get a difference in smoke between those two. BUT...I also don't trust my palate too much. To me the Urbock is just even more malty and a tad sweeter. You definitely will notice a difference with the Eiche. The oak is much different. I also want to say THANKS A LOT! None of those is anywhere near me and nothing I have access to will suffice. Thanks.

 

Yeah I didn't get around to the Eiche tonight after all (schoolwork) but it's first up this weekend. I'm really excited to give it a whirl though. Gonna have it with some bbq pulled pork with a homemade bbq sauce (using liquid smoke, what else!), so it should pair great.

I think the difference in the malt sweetness between the two beers could definitely play a role, but I also felt like the smoke was just a bit more substantial in the Märzen than the Urbock. The Urbock had a sharp, pungent smoke and the Märzen was a bit softer and a bit heavier. Almost like the difference between camp/fireplace smoke on a clear, dry night versus camp smoke on a hazy, humid night- it's the same smoke but it's just different.

 

FWIW, every time I have drunk the Marzen I have registered the "meat" aspect you mentioned.

I have noted a difference with the Urbock. I don't know if I would use the verbiage of "purer" but I definitely noted a difference.

I have also never registered "meat" in the Fastenbier and I have had that beer a half dozen times on differing occasions.

Cheers!

 

Report on Bayerischer Rundfunk yesterday about "craaaaft" beer. Schneider Aventinus (soured with oxidation...intrigued?). Also a 50+ year old Aventinus (in part II of the video).

http://www.br.de/mediathek/video/sendungen/abendschau-der-sueden/craft-beer-100.html

 

It appears that Georg Schneider is one of the ‘movers and shakers’ of the burgeoning German craft beer movement and participates in craft beer discussion topics.

I found this statement intriguing:

“An interesting comment made by Georg Schneider was that their most innovate beers such as Schneider Eisbock, Mein Grünes and the Hopfen Weisse were all brewed with the export market exclusively in mind. Tiny volumes of these beers have been sold in the German market to date, yet for the first time Schneider are now looking to promote them more heavily domestically as the market has become significant enough.”

http://www.berlincraftbeer.com/tag/schneider/

Cheers!

 

...and he's doing so while remaining strictly committed to the Reinheitsgebot!

(Quote from the video starting at the 2:55 mark)Announcer: "You brew according to the Bavarian Beer Purity law. That must severely restrict what you are able to experiment with?"

Georg Schneider: "Absolutely not. With the various ingredients available to us and allowed under the Reinheitsgebot, there are 24 billion possible flavors we can achieve. And you can believe me when I say that that is more than any one brewmaster can ever hope to sample in a lifetime."

 

So is wheat technically RHG approved or is it an allowed exception? I was never really clear on that.

 

Wheat was originally (in 1516) not explicitly allowed nor forbidden. Of course wheat beer was brewed and consumed by the royals anyway. The Vorlaeufiges Biergesetz now allows it explicitly for top-fermenting beers (but not for bottom-fermenting ones).

 

I'm so curious about this one. Aventinus is probably one of my favorite beers, if not my favorite overall. I know it is supposed to age well, but I never seem to keep one around long enough to find out. 50+ years seems to be a bit much though.

 

"Some 22.8 million hectoliters - that's over 2.2 billion litres - of beer were brewed in the southern German state of Bavaria in 2014, the state's agricultural minister Helmut Brunner announced at the International Green Week food trade fair in Berlin.

And that puts Bavaria at the top of the list of all German states, as far as beer brewing is concerned - surpassing regular chart-toppers North Rhine-Westphalia, Germany's most populous state.

The main reason for these impressive figures is the great international demand, pushing exports to some 4.5 million hectoliters - a new record."

http://www.dw.de/bavarian-beer-sets-new-record-figures-show/a-18200354

 

Forgive the laziness of the forthcoming request, but perhaps someone is looking for a way to kill a little time at work

Heading to the UK this summer, sadly with no plans of reaching the continent. However, a few online beer shops in the UK offer crazy cheap shipping domestically, so I've been thinking about placing an order right before we leave and having it sent to some friends who we'll be staying with. While I plan to stuff myself to the gills with cask ale while I'm there, I was thinking this might be a great chance to purchase/bring home some German stuff I can't access here in the states. Anyone care to take a gander at the linked list and denoteany favorites, "must trys", etc., which I can't get in the US?

http://www.beermerchants.com/german?limit=all

 

Is your primary goal tasting or drinking?

 

Wow! Lots of tasty beer to pick from.

These are the beers I would be interested in:

Waldhaus: Diplom Pils, Ohne Filer

Monchshof: Kellerbier, Landbier

Augustiner: Helles

Rothaus: Tannenzapfle

Maisels: Edelhopfen, Weisse

Alpirsbacher: Zwickel, Pils

Ayinger: Kellerbier

If you are interested in trying some German craft beer, Camba apparently makes some good beers.

Have a nice visit!!

Cheers!

 

How do you mean? As in, will I be sharing the bottles with other people, or am I just looking for solo bottles, or am I looking for a six pack I can drain in one sitting for the full experience, or...?

As it were, it's really the middle option -- thinking of trying to stash maybe 5-6 bottles into my suitcases to bring back and savor here in the States. Was hoping, then, to "sample" some of what you might consider to be the best examples of the respective styles.

 

I really enjoyed Camba's Pale Ale when I last visited Munich. It might be worth it to explore Camba's stuff, but keep in mind this is "German Craft" and not necessarily what we might think of as traditional German fare, if that's what you're seeking out. Likewise the Riegele beers that are listed are "German Craft". I've only ever had their Robustus, and while not bad I did feel it was overpriced. Among their "traditional" offerings, if you're looking for good beer you can't find in the States, you might like Augustiner's Hell. Waldhaus has its share of fans on these pages, and I liked their Ohne Filter Extra Herb (not sure if that's the same beer as the Ohne Filter that's listed).

What I'd really recommend is checking to see if these two sister sites deliver to the UK:

http://www.biershop-bayern.de
http://www.biershop-braugasthoefe.de

Far better stuff selection in terms of what you seem to be looking for, i.e., good, traditional German beer you can't find in the US. Looks to be better pricing as well although shipping might even that up.

 

For "sampling," I'd say go with ones you can't get here. Among those are some "craft" options, some German beer geek favorites, and some classics. Maybe 2 from each category? So, e.g. A Camba Pale Ale and one more; a Waldhaus Diplom Pils and Ohne Filter; and 2 Augustiner Helles (poured into a Masskrug...sorry, you're just going to have to "drink" these )

EDIT: note that I don't consider any of the above the best examples of their styles (more anomalies than anything typical of the country or region(s)...well, except for Augustiner). For those -- and to fit the bill for not being available here -- I'd order from the places mjtierney2 suggests.

 

Brilliant -- that's exactly the sort of mix I'm after! And I'm happy to procure a Masskrug for the latter two -- want to make sure I do it all proper and such