How far is too far with flavors?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by kmello69, Jul 3, 2012.

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  1. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    OK, so I really like fruit beers, but in general have shied away from unusually flavored beers because they seem to be really hit or miss. But I think I might have found the line for me - one of my favorite breweries/pubs here in Austin, Black Star Co-Op, just advertised an "Applewood Smoked Tomato" beer.

    "Come in for this savory casked version of High Esteem. Tomatoes are sliced, smoked in house, then added straight into the cask. Sounds like a hearty treat!"

    So my question - how far is too far in terms of flavors being added to beer? I didn't try it, but I don't think I could bring myself to try a smoked tomato beer.....
     
  2. beancounter

    beancounter Initiate (0) Jul 12, 2010 New Hampshire

    As long as enough people like it, no flavor is too much
     
  3. VncentLIFE

    VncentLIFE Initiate (0) Feb 16, 2011 North Carolina

    I couldnt either, but creativity does require pushing the boundaries a bit. Remember technically Wheat beers (especially Wits) arent allowed under Rheinheitsgeibot.
     
  4. olympicgatorade

    olympicgatorade Initiate (0) Aug 16, 2011 New Jersey

    We're gonna be seeing many more craft gimmicks with all these new breweries trying to stand out from the crowd
     
  5. H0rnedFr0gs

    H0rnedFr0gs Initiate (0) Mar 12, 2012 Texas

    Rogue's pink mess
     
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  6. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    yepper, instead of making good solid beer for a decent price.
     
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  7. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    There is no limit. If it weren't for experimentation and pushing the envelope of what is "acceptable" we wouldn't have many of the awesome things we have.

    Think of it this way, at one point someone out there said that using a distortion pedal on an electric guitar was going too far.

    At the very least give it a shot, if you don't like it so be it, but you may dig it. Peronally, I'd love to give it a shot.
     
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  8. abraxel

    abraxel Initiate (0) Aug 28, 2009 Michigan

    It's never too far! I love seeing skilled, creative brewers pushing the boundaries. Of course, this is assuming the end product actually tastes good, or at least that the experimentation leads to better beer.

    I'd certainly be game for a taster glass of tomato beer from a brewery that's proven they know how to make good beer -- I kinda liked Short's Bloody Beer, for example :slight_smile:
     
  9. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    I say one thing about beer as long as its not too expensive I will try any beer at least once. Also good thing about micro brew bar in breweries they usually give free samples or a low cost sampler.:grinning:
     
  10. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    Good point. The price definitely becomes an issue. When you make a smoked imperial celery root czech pilsner, then I applaud you for pushing the envelope and will hope to try it someday. But if it costs $11 for a bomber of it, then I ain't buying it.
     
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  11. FosterJM

    FosterJM Initiate (0) Nov 16, 2009 California

    Is Utopias going to far?
    Is 50/50 Eclipse Variants to far?
    Is New Glarus Wisconsin Belgian Red to far?

    Only you can answer whats best for your palate.

    I can say for me: Shorts Bloody Beer was too far. Tomatoes and Horseradish just didnt do it.

    Cheers!
     
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  12. cmmcdonn

    cmmcdonn Initiate (0) Jun 21, 2009 Virginia

    There's plenty of good solid beer at a decent price. I don't mind a few gimmicks here and there.

    I'll take a new imperial fluffernutter stout over another standard solid (insert style here) just about any day.
     
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  13. azorie

    azorie Pooh-Bah (2,471) Mar 18, 2006 Florida
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    Really at the end of the day I want a sold drinkable beer, some days I want want a strong beer, but I rather have a beer I can drink a few of. New is nice and all, but really there are so few true New beers.....
     
  14. dukes

    dukes Initiate (0) Apr 2, 2012 Maryland

    This pretty much sums it up. A lot of bad things come out of experimentation, but those rare moments when something good comes out of it, it makes it all worth it.
     
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  15. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    Keep an open mind. After all, that's what got you to embrace craft beer, wasn't it?
     
  16. frazbri

    frazbri Initiate (0) Oct 29, 2003 Ohio

    We all have our own personal border-of-good-taste line. Personally, I love to see odd combos like the "smoked tomato" at brewpubs, but that doesn't mean I'm buying it. (I'd probably get a sample!)
     
  17. kmello69

    kmello69 Initiate (0) Nov 27, 2011 Texas

    Definitely, and I'm totally open to trying new things. But I agree with the cost argument too. In this case, it would just be buying a pint, so no big loss if I don't like it, but I've been burned too often lately by $12-15 bombers of "new" beers that end up being awful.

    I think the tomato thing is just personal taste, for me - the idea of it just doesnt draw me in. But I'm fascinated by how far the flavor envelope can be pushed!
     
  18. otispdriftwood

    otispdriftwood Initiate (0) Dec 9, 2011 Colorado

    I'm with you on the cost side. And my post was not intended as a criticism of you, your likes or dislikes but was intended for everybody.
     
  19. sandiego67

    sandiego67 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2008 California

    Budweiser made Chelada years ago. I don't think anyone is pushing the envelope with tomatoes.

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  20. dmoser

    dmoser Initiate (0) Sep 11, 2009 California

    saison du buff was one of those beers that stands out for me as a beer with too much flavor, particularly the rosemarry. not undrinkable by any means(i've never been one to drain pour), but i only bought it again one more time.
     
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