Help with Imperial Pumpkin Ale recipe

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  1. dominic4beer

    dominic4beer Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2009 California

    I'm looking for any generous readers to take some time and help me out with a recipe I'm wanting to brew soon for some good cellaring time until fall. I'd like to brew a BOURBON BARREL AGED IMPERIAL PUMPKIN Ale possibly with some coffee, vanilla, or chocolate. Anyone have any partial or full mash recipes they recommend? I'm looking to have it be rich and creamy, and less spicy. Thanks to anyone willing to help.
     
  2. WanderingFool

    WanderingFool Pooh-Bah (2,136) Aug 7, 2002 Massachusetts
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    If I were you I'd leave out the bourbon barrel. Bourbon usually dominates the flavor so if you're making a beer with spices you're not going to taste them.

    When I want my beers to be rich and creamy I add oatmeal to the mash. That usually does the trick.
     
  3. HopNuggets

    HopNuggets Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2009 Connecticut

    I brewed the Northern Brewer Pumpkin Ale Extract recipe. I added 3 pounds or Rahr 6 row to the grains and mashed with 45oz of canned pumpkin. I would double the amount of spice they include to get a better spice aroma since I detected none. I bottled 1 gallon of the batch with 1.25oz of Makers Mark in the bottling bucket with the priming solution and it was unbelievable! Don't know if this helps you much but just my experience with a pumpkin ale from last year. The extra grain bumps up the ABV a bit too.
     
  4. PangaeaBeerFood

    PangaeaBeerFood Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2008 New York

    Couldn't disagree more. I brew a bourbon barrel Pumpkin Ale and the flavors meld wonderfully. Certified judges seem to agree, as this beer has scored as high as 40 in official brewing competitions. It just takes some practice to find the right balance.

    To the OP, you're welcome to try my recipe. The original is linked below, but I make tweaks and improvements every year (I just brewed my third year of this last week). If you have any interest in using the recipe, let me know and I'll give you some tips/tricks on different things that I've tried.

    http://www.pangaeabeerandfood.com/2010/12/one-only-gentleman-jack-olantern.html
     
  5. MaxSpang

    MaxSpang Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2011 Ohio
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    Why not Rum instead of Bourbon? Rum and pumpkin spices go together like lamb and tuna fish. Yummmmm
     
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  6. PangaeaBeerFood

    PangaeaBeerFood Initiate (0) Nov 30, 2008 New York

    Bourbon and spices go together great, too. Just depends on the flavor profile you're looking for.
     
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  7. dominic4beer

    dominic4beer Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2009 California

    Thanks for all the help you guys gave. This will make for a good fall suprise.
     
  8. ToeNee11

    ToeNee11 Initiate (0) Apr 4, 2009 Connecticut

    I was going to order the Smashing Pumpkin extract recipe myself. Does that make 5 gallons? (Disclaimer: I'm new to the brewing scene.) They recommend 2 lbs of crushed Rahr 6 row... you suggest 3 lbs? Also, how could I double the spices when I order the extract kit? Definitely a fan of more spice... AND I love bourbon in beer. For 5 gallons, I could go with 6.25 oz like you did with your 1 gallon. Would you recommend adding the bourbon during fermentation or bottling/kegging? What was your final ABV for both the bourbon and non-bourbon varieties? I'm full of questions... thanks for whatever you can offer.
     
  9. hopsandmalt

    hopsandmalt Initiate (0) Dec 14, 2006 Michigan

    1. It makes 5 gal.
    2. I'm assuming that HopNuggets added the extra 6row and pumpkin and did a mini mash to "imperialize" the beer. I would not add any 6row to the kit if I were you unless you are prepared to do a mini mash in order to convert the starch in the grain to sugar (6row is a base malt and needs to be mashed and so does pumpkin)
    3. It would be cheaper for you to go to the grocery store and buy pumpkin pie spice
    4. I would add the bourbon at bottling/kegging for maximum flavor impact. I have added as much as a pint for 5 gallons but that was very prominent. I think you'll be right on with 6.25 oz.
     
  10. GatorBeer

    GatorBeer Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2010 South Carolina

    I brewed this a few weeks ago, I'd call it a cross between DFH Punkin and Pumking, leaning more towards Punkin, I like i more than the most pumpkin ales (Harpoon, Smuttynose, etc).

    6.5 lb 2-row
    .75 lb crystal 40

    1oz EKG (60 min)
    WLP002 with a 750 mL starter
    OG ended up being around 1.070
    FG was around 1.020
    30 oz pumpkin purée mixed with maple syrup and baked at 350F until carmelized and add into the mash.
    1tsp (or less) of pumpkin pie spice with 5 min left in boil.
    I also made a tincture of pumpkin pie spices and put it in the secondary.
     
  11. HopNuggets

    HopNuggets Initiate (0) Oct 8, 2009 Connecticut

    5 gal kit like hopsandmalt said. Added 3# Rahr 6-row since they said 2-3lbs. It needs to be minimashed with the 45oz of canned pumpkin. I don't know if you can just scale up the bourbon but it was subtle and not overpowering so you should be safe with 6-7oz (maybe even more) for the 5 gal batch. Extra spice from store or you can see if they can double it in your order if you don't want to buy the spice. I think my ABV on the non-bourbon beer was 6.9%ish, off the top of my head. With the bourbon, I don't know how to figure it out but it was only 1 shot for a gallon so probably only a hair higher.
     
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  12. philbe311

    philbe311 Pooh-Bah (2,516) Jan 21, 2008 Pennsylvania
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    Part of the fun of homebrewing is coming up with your own recipes... I'm just now enjoying the first couple of bottles of my first pumpkin ale and have been quite thrilled results... I attribute my success to the following two items, both of which I think will help in creating the "rich and creamy, less spicy" character you describe:
    • The addition of flaked oats to the mash
    • I struggled with yeast choice, but settled on WLP028 (Edinburgh Scottish Ale Yeast)
     
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