Newcastle Brown recipe change

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by marquis, Feb 7, 2015.

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  1. JoeSpartaNJ

    JoeSpartaNJ Zealot (691) Feb 5, 2008 New Jersey

    The had Newcastle on 2 occasions last year. The first was on tap at Buffalo Wild Wings. I remember it tasting very wTered down and switched to Goose Island IPA. The second time I had it was at my hotel at Disney. They had it in pint cans and I had one while watching the Super Bowl. I remember the canned version being better than the tap version.
     
  2. deathevocation

    deathevocation Initiate (0) Nov 7, 2008 Australia

    My local has it on tap. Local bottle shop has bottles, pint bottles and 500ml cans.

    Not sure who buys it.
     
  3. sixa66

    sixa66 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2015 Florida

    It was only a matter of time! They've been getting shit about it since that list came out about them using caramel coloring. Caramel coloring is cheaper than roasted malts like HFCS is cheaper than sugar and you can tell they don't seem very happy about changing it. I like that they point out cupcakes and soda like a child in trouble trying to snitch on his buddies so he isn't the only one in trouble. I'll try one when they are released.
     
  4. LordCrabapple

    LordCrabapple Initiate (0) Sep 5, 2006 England

    It shows an ignorance of traditional brewing to complain about the use of caramel (or to say it shouldn't be in beer). Interestingly, this beer used to be thought of as a very strong one, popular with young men who listened to rock music.
     
  5. CheapHysterics

    CheapHysterics Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2009 Pennsylvania

    The author may have meant to say it is a best-seller in both the US and the UK, and in the UK it's nicknamed "dog," but the way it's written it says that the nickname applies in both places. I've never heard it called dog either, but if that was popularized in the 80s it may have just been before my time (my time as a beer drinker that is... I was 5 in 1980.)
     
  6. CheapHysterics

    CheapHysterics Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2009 Pennsylvania

    I'm ignorant on the topic, so enlighten me. I tried looking up when caramel coloring (not caramel, but caramel coloring) was first used as a food additive, but with no luck. Brewing's been around a heck of a long time, so I was trying to get a feel for how long this practice had been going on to see how traditional it really is.

    Either way, I think it's cheating to make your beer darker with a coloring agent that doesn't contribute in a positive way to the flavor.
     
  7. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    Some ads from US brewing industry magazines in the pre-Pro era of 1900-1918 for "sugar coloring" and other well-known beer coloring ingredients like "Porterine":

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  8. Flibber

    Flibber Initiate (0) Jul 27, 2013 England

    Would adding carmel colouring mean it should taste the same as Landlord? Maybe it's the power of suggestion, but they seem different to me.
     
  9. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    There
    There's a LOT of caramel used,enough to transform the taste.
    I think that Merrie Monk is Pedigree plus caramel.
     
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  10. jesskidden

    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    jesskidden Grand Pooh-Bah (3,145) Aug 10, 2005 New Jersey
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    From the linked BBC article in the OP:
     
  12. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I have seen Sinamar in a few top rated craft breweries. It is another tool for a brewer to use to get consistent color.
    http://www.weyermann.de/eng/produkte.asp?idkat=26&umenue=yes&idmenue=0&sprache=2
     
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