German craft beer

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  1. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    @Lurchus is right - the idea at least has been around for a while. About a decade ago, some guy "invented" it and claimed it was not a simple mix of weissbier and pilsner, but rather brewed with a special process in order to claim to be the "original" Weipi. As I recall, he tried to patent it so that others could not reproduce it and call it a Weipi. Not sure how that finished out.

    I did have a chance to try it, and I personally really enjoyed it. Heavy carbonation, great dextrins/proteins to give weissbier mouthfeel and a nice noble hop aroma.
     
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  2. pthread1981

    pthread1981 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2007 Germany

    I've had the Herbert (Berliner Weisse) and maybe the Saison. Not bad, but not great.
     
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  3. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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  4. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    Does it have the typical Weizen yeast esters? Or does it come off more as a Pale Wheat Ale -- in the style of Widmer Wheat?
     
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  5. boddhitree

    boddhitree Pooh-Bah (1,839) Apr 13, 2008 Germany
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    Sounds like it's getting to be almost 1 beer fest every month. Great. It can only be a good thing. I noticed Faust is there, as is Scheider, Welde, who had some pretty good "Festbiere," Braukunstkeller, and some more that sound interesting. I'm putting it on my calendar for April, and then May in Köln for Festival der Bierkulturen.
     
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  6. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    As I recall (bear in mind it's probably 10 years ago) it was more of a pilsner on the nose, indicating not using Weihenstephan/weissbier yeast.

    This is the original that I tried - my wife lived for many years in Nördlingen, that's how I had access to this.

    http://www.germanbeerinstitute.com/Weissbierpils.html
     
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  7. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    All of the times I've been over and I've never seen this style of beer. My friends from Stuttgart love Weizen (and Rothaus) and never talked about this -- whether that's good or bad, I can't say, but I would have given it at least one try.
     
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  8. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    Has anyone tried these?

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    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Nope. I did try the Sapphire when it came out...once. Sweet, slightly fruity mess. Still, I might give the 1873 Pils a shot...I hear that German hopping levels were considerably higher in the '70s. :wink:
     
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    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  11. Akerstache

    Akerstache Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2015 Germany

    Do I want to know the prices these go for? Because I kinda have the feeling that they're pulling a Craftwerk. In which case I'd only give those a shot if someone bought me one.
     
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  12. Crusader

    Crusader Pooh-Bah (1,725) Feb 4, 2011 Sweden
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    Here's an article about the beers.

    "Das 1873 Pils liegt bei vergleichsweise milden 25 BEs. Die im Vergleich zum klassischen Beck’s Pils andere Hopfenmischung und der höhere Alkoholgehalt werden das behauptete „erfrischend herbe Geschmackserlebnis“ unterfüttern müssen."
     
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  13. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    I tried the Sapphire too and was underwhelmed and disappointed. No wonder it's nowhere to be found < 1 year later.
     
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  14. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    Thanks @Crusader nice link.

    This really hits my sentiment "Das Pale Ale, die Stiltür in die Welt stärker gehopfter, aromatischer und experimenteller Biere, wird dieses Jahr dank Beck’s in aller Munde sein." Simply translated, as the Big Boys bring out these beers, it will be in front of more people causing more to discuss beer and not NECESSARILY the price of beer. @Akerstache excluded :wink: haha couldn't resist.
     
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  15. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    "...und statusstärkend wirken."

    Yep, "craft" beer has finally arrived in Germany. :wink:
     
    #1135 herrburgess, Mar 11, 2015
  16. Akerstache

    Akerstache Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2015 Germany

    I mean hey, if that's gonna help overall quality of beer to rise and people to be more expansive - sweet. I still think the pricing (particularly from big conglomerates) for these beers is inadequate when smaller breweries that probably have significantly higher financial risk can brew (possibly better) beers and get them out there for a smaller price. It just smells funky to me (and I don't mean that in a good way like in a good sour).
     
    #1136 Akerstache, Mar 11, 2015
  17. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    If it's going to grab the consumer, make a semi-splash and actually sell in the classical distribution channels, it has to be within means, I agree with you. If a case of Becks is EUR 12,99 then this can cost 13,99-14,99.
     
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  18. jonb5

    jonb5 Pooh-Bah (1,745) May 11, 2010 England
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    So who'll be the next mainstream German brewery to put out a pale ale?

    My money is on Flensburger, it fits with their maritime theme and they've put a few new beers on the market in recent years.
     
    #1138 jonb5, Mar 11, 2015
  19. digita7693

    digita7693 Initiate (0) Jan 19, 2010 Germany

    Can we just hope for it to be a good brewery to put out a good pale ale? Such as Faust or Rothaus...
     
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  20. Gutes_Bier

    Gutes_Bier Maven (1,363) Jul 31, 2011 Germany

    Faust has Auswanderer, which is a DIPA style (I think?), however they give it a best by date of 2 years. :confused:
     
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