Yay, my second batch isn't disgusting!

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  1. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    You get around the aging lag time dilemma by building a pipeline.

    Brew a batch every week for six-to-eight weeks ... then every n-th week to match consumption.
    That way ... you always have beer at the ready when it's ready.
     
  2. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I waited a few weeks, and let a bottle sit in the fridge a few days. Indeed, it is a little better.
     
  3. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Until somebody here says they have brewed that same Northern Brewer Bourbon Barrel kit and say that it makes a great beer, I'm going to go back to my post above (#4) that you may have false expectations for that recipe. Keep aging them, but don't give up on brewing your next beer. You mentioned that you plan to do a scorch ale, so I'd go ahead and get it going when you have time. If your ambient temps in Texas are getting too hot to ferment the beer, then take steps to get your fermentation chamber going so that you have better control over that important factor. You're going to get it right because you seem determined. Keep the faith. :slight_smile:
     
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  4. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    It'd say it's on the level of ok. And I'm sure you are completely right about adding notes vs actually cask aging.

    And I did finish my fermenter / kegerator. Pretty much... I need to tweak a couple things. But I will post a how-to tutorial on imgur and link that to all the posts I've made referring to it on here. Still would like to have some rails for glassware. I think I'm going to adhere them to the top and deal with it when it eventually breaks.

    I did in fact begin fermenting a 5 gallon batch of Scotch ale on Sat night. LME partial mash. The ingredients and recipe were from a LHBS . Well, it's 2 towns and 30 min away... not sure If I'd call it a local home brew store. But it is what it is. The gentleman that works there is nice enough. I pitched with an og of 1.050 Which reminds me of a question! The directions called to leave the grain bag in the water for 30 min. Which is the longest I've seen for steeping the grains. Then pour water through it. towards the bottom of the bag, it was getting almost gooey. I assume it's some of the grains breaking down in the hot water. In comes the question: If I had steeped the grains for a longer time, would more gains have broken down into solution, and increased the specific gravity? And wouldn't that be a good thing? More flavor to the beer, and more carbohydrates for the yeast to convert to alcohol? Just curious.
     
  5. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Steeping grains is akin to making a cup of tea with a tea bag.

    Two things;
    1) Steeping has little ... if any ... effect on your wort's specific gravity.
    It's all flava-flav.

    2) At some point .... steeping time is a matter of diminishing returns.
    More and more time t'ain't better and may actually be marginally worse.
     
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  6. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Thanks for the info. I was thinking it would put some carbohydrates in solution since isn't that how all grain brewing works? (I don't know the first thing about all grain brewing.) So if that isn't the case, why did the bottom of bag get kinda slimy? What would make it do that?
     
  7. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Any volume of crushed grain will have a certain percentage of flour.

    Flour + water = slime

    In all-grain brewing ... too much slime in the mash can lead to a stuck sparge.
     
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  8. KittyBrewster

    KittyBrewster Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2015 Alabama

    Was it a partial mash or an extract batch with specialty grains? The directions sound like the latter, so a longer soak time would do nothing. The grains are there to provide color, flavor, mouthfeel, etc., but negligible amounts of sugars. 30 mins is plenty of time to get the flavor and color.
     
  9. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I agree with what Herb and Kitty said. All of my recipes have called for only a 20-minute steeping period, but 30 minutes should not be a big deal. The grains are cracked for the steeping, and there is a certain amount of very fine particles that results from the cracking and that is the 'flour' that Herb mentioned, so that also is no big deal. Extra flavor. :wink:
     
  10. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    It is extract with specialty grains. But, he is calling that partial mash.
     
  11. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    The 'partial mash' is usually a misnomer for the steeping process. However, with the longer time period that you had and if you were using grains that can be mashed you are approaching the same procedures that are used for a full mash in the all-grain method. Consider it as basic training for your next brewing level.
     
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  12. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I'm really looking forward to 2 days post keging day. The grains smelled so good!
     
  13. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Be patient, corbmoster, be patient. Or I'm going to make you seek permission from this forum before you move that beer out of the fermentor. :wink:
     
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  14. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I'll be good.... :grinning:
     
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  15. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    Just as an update, I've still been good :wink: I did some reading up on scotch ales and it seems like they really benefit from cold conditioning. I was thinking about getting a 5 gal better bottle to let it sit longer. I also noticed most people suggest fermenting it cold. Like low 60s (15C). I'm not far off at 17.5C but live and learn I guess. It probably won't make much of a difference.
     
  16. MCBanjoMike

    MCBanjoMike Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2014 Canada (QC)

    The Scotch ale in BCS is supposed to ferment at 66 or 68 F, so I wouldn't worry about it too much. It probably depends more on which yeast you use.

    EDIT: As soon as I posted that, I started wondering if it was actually 65F. Either way, not quite the "low 60s".
     
  17. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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  18. witster18

    witster18 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2006 Tennessee

    go all grain. jump in. two feet. you'll be glad you did. need any help in the venture - be glad to help.
     
  19. corbmoster

    corbmoster Pundit (848) Dec 15, 2014 Texas
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    I really don't have room in my apartment for the gas burner, gigantic pot, igloo coolers, etc, etc. Or have money to buy new equipment. I'll be sticking with extract brews.
     
  20. witster18

    witster18 Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2006 Tennessee

    thats cool, but glasstop kitchen burners get plenty hot enough to boil up to 6gal, and you can do 6 gallon batches with a 5 gal igloo cooler... my equipment takes up the same space as an old console tv. just sayin the quality of the taste would be exponentially better
     
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