I want to start home brewing... Need some help!

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  1. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I am starting my "research" phase to pickup some equipment to start doing small home-brew batches. I can search google all day long, but I figure everyone here would probably have better resources for me to check out.

    I am not interested in doing large batches but smaller ones... Perhaps just two gallons or so per batch that I can bottle.

    I need to know what equipment I would need for ideal brewing. I am not too concerned on initial cost as I would rather buy better equipment up front than cheap out and then have to upgrade later. Budget, a few hundred dollars would be fine.

    Being in Cleveland, I have access to a few good shops that sell equipment, malts, yeast, hops, etc... So I am good in that regard supply wise.

    If it matters, I will likely be brewing all types of beer... Stouts/Porters, IPA's, Hefe's, etc...

    I will have access to a normal kitchen (of course) and have a basement that is usually 60F or so year-round and out of sunlight.

    So if anyone has some good information I can look at or simply has advice, it is welcome. This will strictly just be another fun hobby for me to play around with (at least for now!).
     
  2. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    My advice is to read this... www.howtobrew.com ...then come back and ask your new questions here.
    The older version of How To Brew is free at the above link. Or better yet, you can buy the current version pretty cheap on amazon.
     
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  3. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Excellent, thank you!
     
  4. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    You made mention of brewing 2 gallon batches.

    You may want to consider using a Mr. Beer fermenter to make these 2 gallon batches.

    For your viewing pleasure:

     
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  5. atrocity

    atrocity Pooh-Bah (2,264) Dec 18, 2013 Virginia
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    HowToBrew is always a classic starting point. So much good info.
     
  6. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Welcome to this crazy (but fun) hobby. Your question is a frequent one in this forum but unfortunately the key words to use in a search bring back too many responses. Here are links for searching on 'newbie' and 'noobie' which will give you a start for getting answers that you can read right away rather than waiting for new responses.
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/search/30853605/?q=newbie&o=date&c[node]=8
    http://www.beeradvocate.com/community/search/30853592/?q=noobie&o=date&c[node]=8

    I'll also suggest that you page thru this forum because there are plenty of threads that deal with small batches, equipment, etc. and rather than doing searches, it is easier to just browse the thread titles on each page and read the posts if they seem to fit.
     
  7. tedvr

    tedvr Initiate (0) Oct 24, 2014 Ohio

    I am a one gallon advocate, especially to start out with. The equipment can be found about anywhere, and consists of a five gallon pot and a three gallon pot along with the glass one gallon jug. The time to brew is fairly short, and if you mess up a brew you aren't out that much money. I did start with a one gallon kit I got as a gift and went from there. I just started last November and have done 15 brews, which has allowed me to learn a lot more than I would have doing a bigger brew less frequently.
     
  8. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    I honestly think it's a little overwhelming for new readers. It is a great read, but I suggest a hands-on approach every time for the newbies. Find a homebrew club or someone who brews and start hanging out on brew day. The rhetoric can come later.
     
  9. pweis909

    pweis909 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,250) Aug 13, 2005 Wisconsin
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    I recommend you look into the Brew In A Bag (BIAB) approach to all-grain brewing. Some information here: http://www.biabrewer.info/ --extensive forum w/ info
    http://homebrewmanual.com/brew-in-a-bag/ ---pictorial summary
    http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/wp-content/uploads/How-To-Brew-in-a-Bag.pdf - American Homebrewer Association summary article
    Other good links out there, but you know how to google.

    Basically, BIAB is a way to make all-grain batches of beer with a minimalist approach to equipment and a reduction in time. I believe that following the approach to the letter does put some limitations on batch size, but if you are interested in smaller batches, that is not a problem. This approach didn't receive a lot of attention 10 years ago, when I was beginning to think about all-grain brewing. I probably would have opted for it if I knew about it, but I have to confess to not really having done it myself (well, there was this one time that I sort of modified my own approach to one resembling this technique).
     
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  10. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    Thanks everyone! This is all great information. Will read it all!
     
  11. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    There is an AHA activity coming up called "Big Brew". Homebrewers show up at locations like Homebrew Shops and Breweries, sometimes a guys house. They brew various recipes and sized batches on whatever their system is. May 2 this year. Information with the group recipes.
    http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/aha-events/national-homebrew-day/

    Locations can be found here.
    http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/aha-events/national-homebrew-day/big-brew-events/

    I also recommend finding a club near you. Being in a club really elevated the level of beer I make due to the feedback I got. You will meet some great people.
    http://www.homebrewersassociation.org/community/clubs/find-a-homebrew-club/
     
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  12. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    OK guys... Reading up, I am ready to purchase equipment to start. I decided to go with whole-grain brewing to start. I know it's more complicated, but I am very experienced in the kitchen and do a lot of cooking, smoking, baking, etc... I am also an engineer, so being technical and detailed is not an issue. I don't care if it takes longer, I got plenty of time.

    So I am looking for a good kit right off the bat. I would rather "buy-in" to good equipment up front than buy a cheap kit and spend more money later. I want a complete, whole-grain kit... Ideally, for 1.0-2.5 gallon batches.

    I am also expecting to make an immersion wort chiller as well... Should be easy enough to make with a visit to the hardware store.

    Any other suggestions for equipment? I know I will need a good hydrometer, thermometer, bottle capper, etc... Mostly, looking for the stuff I need to brew/ferment/etc... I don't want to start with extracts, I won't the entire experience.
     
  13. Mag00n

    Mag00n Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2008 New York

    There isnt exactly a complete kit for such small batches unfortunately (I too am a small batch brewer). I use a 3 gallon igloo cooler as a mash tun for BIAB, its a little too small it limits me to about 6-7% abv brews. You could also just use a 5 gallon kettle but I think the coolers hold the mash temp much better. The Tuns you can buy premade online are too big for 1 gallon batches IMO so youre going to have to get creative on that. Id also look into a 3 gallon carboy or brew demon/mr beer for fermenting in. You can also ferment in 5 gallon buckets but the wider surface area makes it a little harder to get your full volume because of the trub(you can use a book under one side of the bucket so everything collects on one side). Hope this helped a little

    Also, if you come to enjoy this hobby I wouldnt wait too long to get a keg(3-5 gallon), its so worth it
     
  14. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I would be fine buying equipment for 5-gallon batches and just using the ingredient amounts for 2.5 gal or so. I don't mind to over-buy size wise, just in case I want to do more once I get better. But to start, I want to do smaller batches to get technique and such down... So if I fail, the loss is not as expensive.

    Could you please explain why having a 3-gallon igloo cooler is too small that it limits you to 6-7% abv? Why would size matter for that if your only doing let's say 2.5 gallon volume?
     
  15. Mag00n

    Mag00n Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2008 New York

    Sure, lets say I want to brew 1.5 gallons. My system evaporates 1 gallon of water per 60 minutes of boil. So I need to have 2.5 gallons of wort post-mash. That means I need to mash with ~2.7ish gallons of water(if doing no-sparge) to make up for the water being absorbed into the grain during the mash. So my cooler is nearly full without any grain, so Im limited to 3.5-4lbs of grain, which typically puts me in about 6-7% abv. In reality, I usually have to mash with about 2.1 gallons or less then dunk sparge or top off pre-boil(reduces efficiency). Even an extra gallon on my cooler would really help, Ive just been lazy.
     
  16. scurvy311

    scurvy311 Savant (1,135) Dec 3, 2005 Louisiana

    If the initial start up cost of a 5 to 6 gallon system doesn't scare you, and you can find a competent homebrewer to help you, and you have no trouble either drinking or sharing the fruits of a 5 to 6 gallon batch there is absolutely no reason why your first batch can't be or wont be delicious to the end of the batch.
     
  17. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    If you're going to brew a smallish batch, you'll want to try to keep your fermentor sized down a bit too. It may not work well to use a 6.5 gallon bucket to ferment 2.5 gallons of beer. That's just too much head space.

    As for a suggestion for other equipment that you might need, I don't recall if you said what your fermentation environment will be, but it's very important to be able to provide an ambient temp of 60-65 degrees with minimal fluctuation. (A closet in an apartment usually won't be good enough.) The fermentation process will raise the wort temp a few degrees, but you want to try to keep it below 70 with that extra heat, thus a controlled environment will help in that cause to minimize the extra heat rise. Usually a basement is a good place (away from the furnace or water heater) and on the floor may be necessary to get below 65. You can Google 'swamp cooler' to see what your options are to build something, or you can spend some bucks on an old fridge or freezer plus an external temp controller to contain your fermentor, thus a controlled environment.
     
  18. invertalon

    invertalon Pooh-Bah (2,249) Jan 27, 2009 Ohio
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    I will be fermenting in my basement, in a closet out of sunlight. Temperatures down there tend to be 65F-ish year-round, if not slightly cooler. Should be perfect.
     
  19. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Head space is not a real issue wrt primary fermentation; that head space will quickly fill up with CO2 at the beginning of fermentation.

    Cheers!
     
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  20. MostlyNorwegian

    MostlyNorwegian Pooh-Bah (2,236) Feb 5, 2013 Illinois
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    I'd advise just scaling up to 5 gal. You are doing the same amount of clean up and investing the same amount of time. Might as well have more beer to show, and share for the trouble.
     
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