Is all "bomber" packaging a rip off?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by jeffgott, Mar 15, 2015.

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  1. zstef99

    zstef99 Initiate (0) Dec 25, 2008 New York

    Buying more of a product generally does mean a lower price per ounce, except when you're buying more of a product via lots of small packages grouped together.

    For example, a 2 liter of soda is cheaper by the ounce than a 12-pack of cans, even though the 12-pack contains more soda. A large bag of potato chips is cheaper by the ounce than one of those boxes that includes many small bags, even though the box of small bags contains more chips.

    In those cases, you're paying more for the extra packaging being used in the multi-packs, as well as the convenience of being able to open one of the small packages without having to consume the rest of the the product within a certain time frame. There's no reason this same principle shouldn't apply to beer, except that as a luxury product some people perceive beer differently and are inclined to place a higher value on bombers than 12oz bottles.

    I believe bombers continue to sell at such high prices per ounce because:
    - The package looks fancier. Big bottles remind people of wine, small bottles remind people of BMC.
    - Some beers are only available in bomber format.
    - People are bad at math.
    - People understand all of the above and don't mind paying extra.
     
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  2. Dudeeemadudbomb

    Dudeeemadudbomb Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2015 Canada (BC)

    That's exactly it. Where I live, there are a lot of great beers that simply don't come in 6 packs- such as Philllip's Amnesiac. Either accept the format or miss out/be limited to the same selection of 6 packs all the time.
     
  3. SoNiC21

    SoNiC21 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2015 California

    QFT, it seems like most people are neglecting this fact.
     
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  4. zstef99

    zstef99 Initiate (0) Dec 25, 2008 New York

    Comparing bomber pricing to 6-pack pricing makes a lot more sense than comparing bomber pricing to bar pricing.
     
  5. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    I don't buy bombers much at all. Are they a rip off? To me, yes. But if they were truly a bad deal, no one would buy them and brewers would stop using them. So I know I'm in the minority on that. As to why I don't buy bombers much at all, I want quality and quantity. Folks like to dichotomize the two in these types of discussions. I'm not buying 30 packs of PBR nor am I buying $30 bottles of Eclipse. However, I'll gladly take a six pack of Long Trail Limbo (rated on this site as "very good") that costs $11 over a bomber of Stone Enjoy By (rated on this site as "world class") that costs $10.
     
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  6. SoNiC21

    SoNiC21 Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2015 California

    Understandably, I just find it funny how people will pay $6-8 a pint but will balk at paying near the same price 22oz bottle.

    Though yeah I feel most of the time bombers are little pricey, but sometimes that's the only way to drink most beers because their not available in a 6pack format. Beers like Victory at Sea and Enjoy by I'll definately grab the 6pack vs the bombers because its more valuable.
     
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  7. AnchorDrops

    AnchorDrops Initiate (0) May 11, 2013 Michigan

    If you are paying $8.99 for a bomber of Hop Stoopid then you are getting ripped off. So yes, it sounds like the store you are shopping at is overpriced.
     
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  8. AnchorDrops

    AnchorDrops Initiate (0) May 11, 2013 Michigan

    New Holland is doing a pretty good job pricing their sour offerings packaged in bombers. I'll gladly pay $4.50-$8.00 (depending on the beer itself) for them any day of the week.
     
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  9. denverbeerguy

    denverbeerguy Initiate (0) May 10, 2013 Colorado

    Lagunitas gets it. 9$ for their barrel aged imperial coffee stout. 4.49$ for their barleywine bomber and imperial stout. 4$ for hop stoopid.
     
  10. breadwinner

    breadwinner Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 California

    Cripes, are there really so few places that let people buy single 12oz bottles these days? I've got several places that let me do that, and they're pretty much the only shops I frequent, so I really don't understand the "I just want to try it but don't want to commit to a six-pack" mentality.

    Sure, there's stuff that's bomber-only, but, frankly, I just pass 'em by. $10 or $12 to try the latest IPA or saison? No thanks. Too much good, affordable beer to mess around with that.

    Finally, for those who think beer is undervalued, you'd be horrified to see how little it costs in other parts of the world, incl. places like Germany -- whole cases of (high quality) 16oz bottles for $20.
     
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  11. maltmaster420

    maltmaster420 Initiate (0) Aug 17, 2005 Oregon

    The ability to split six packs seems to be much less common in the Midwest and East Coast than it does out here. Hell, it's so widespread in Oregon that you can walk into pretty much any grocery store and pluck a single bottle from any six pack you want.

    I honestly can't recall the last time I saw a store with a "mix a six" section because it's pretty much taken for granted that you can buy single bottles of almost everything.
     
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  12. FFreak

    FFreak Savant (1,065) Nov 10, 2013 Vermont

    I wonder why Long Trail is now releasing Limbo in $8 bombers. That to me seems a little like gouging when you can already get the same beer in reasonably priced 12 oz format. The bomber price equates to about a $26 six pack. Another example - I took a bomber of Sculpin to the counter the other day and it rang up at $11.49. Sculpin is expensive in bottles and cans, but that was a HUGE mark up - like a $37 six pack. I didn't buy it and recommended that they put the price on the bottle.
     
  13. Morakaton

    Morakaton Initiate (0) May 6, 2013 Michigan

    Founder's and Bell's have it right; they don't do bombers, except for the extremely occasional limited release that (normally) deserves a higher price tag. Anyone who uses the crappy mantra of "har har, I'd rather pay $8 for a bomber than $12 for a 6 pack in case I don't like it" really don't consider that if bombers didn't exist, there'd be more room for a singles selection.

    Plus, I can't think of a situation where I'd rather have my measly $4 than A LOT of extra beer. Very little beer is THAT bad, and you have BA if you're really that unsure to prevent you from buying it in the first place.
     
  14. Hair

    Hair Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2006 California

    No one has that mantra since your numbers are not realistic. Yes there are a lot of $8 bombers and $12 6-packs, but it is rare that the same beer with have those price points.

    When I buy bombers I generally look to buy 3 bombers for the approx. price of 1 6-pack of the same caliber. I only get 66oz instead of 72oz, and I might pay a buck or two more, but I get three different beers instead of 1.

    Yes, mixed 6-packs negate that. I do mixed 6-packs whenever I can, but not every store in my area lets me do that.

    If you are buying $8 bombers of a beer that you can get a 6-pack of for $12, you are doing it wrong.

    You are using a straw man argument. I am talking about $5-6 bombers instead of $12-$14 6-packs. Of course it will vary from beer to beer and from retailer to retailer. No one defends bombers based on your hypothetical $8/$12 prices, so don't burn that straw man and say the other side has no argument.
     
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  15. Providence

    Providence Pooh-Bah (2,652) Feb 24, 2010 Rhode Island
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    They're doing it for the folks that don't want to commit to a full sixer, which, if this thread is any indication, is a fairly large group of craft beer purchasers. Also, I don't know how serious you were with your use of the word gouging, but just so we're all on the same page, you can't price gouge a luxury item.
     
  16. HoppyBastard

    HoppyBastard Savant (1,149) Sep 6, 2013 Nebraska

    I rarely buy bombers anymore because they are a poor value. With the explosion of craft beer and the myriad of choices available, I can be more picky and purchase great beer for a fair price.
     
  17. pgrenvicz

    pgrenvicz Initiate (0) Nov 15, 2013 Georgia

    Yeah, but it won't stop me from over paying. Damn this obsession!
     
  18. Lonestar9

    Lonestar9 Zealot (555) Apr 27, 2008 South Carolina
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    If it's a beer I want then I pay the price for it. If not then I will pass. A bomber is the norm for many beers so if I feel the beer is worth it then I pay the price. No big deal,
     
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  19. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    Not if that's the only format the beer is available in. You've gotta pay to play.
     
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  20. HoppySeb

    HoppySeb Initiate (0) Jan 21, 2014 Washington

    For most beers, I'll take the 12oz or can format if available- however if its a beer i want I don't think twice about getting the bomber. In other instances though (enjoy by from stone). I've stopped buying them as the bomber is more than I'd want to drink of that particular beer.
     
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