LHBS impulse shopping trip yielded BIAB kit.

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  1. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Per previous thread, it was suggested that I check my kettle thermometer so I went to the best LHBS around here to pick up a good quality thermometer. I always come out of a place with more than what I planned for, so of course I spied this out of the corner of my eye.

    The instructions aren't complex, which means they're leaving out important details, so it did lead me to a question. Here is our water quality report, which has me reacquainting myself with some general water parameters from my aquaria days. See anything I need to look out for? This kit did come with some pH stabilizer which depending on who you want to believe, works/doesn't work. It seems to be mixed into the grist because it's not packaged separately. No matter.
     
  2. Mag00n

    Mag00n Initiate (0) Nov 21, 2008 New York

    bru n water and Im sure others allow you to input the data from your report. Welcome to the club, I love BIAB.
     
  3. Hey

    Hey Initiate (0) Sep 16, 2013 North Carolina

    If the pH stabilizer is mixed in then I suppose it can't hurt. It may not help, but who knows. The issue with your water report is the date. It's old. Have you brewed with your straight tap water before and if so, how did that turn out? I brew with tap water most of the year but I stop using my tap water (and drinking it) between March 1 and May 1. During March there is some kind of treatment and you can smell it and taste it in the water. So I just buy spring water.

    Do you have a BeerSmith? You can plug your numbers in and see if there are any serious adjustments, but again, that's a 2013 report so I'm not certain it's going to be 100% accurate. With that IPA kit, you may just want to go spend a few more bucks on spring water.
     
  4. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    That report doesn't have all the important brewing ions that you will need if you want to calculate expected mash (or steep) pH or plan for their flavor contributions. If you want to do that, ask your water provider for...

    Ca
    Mg
    Na
    Cl
    SO4
    Alkalinity as HCO3 or CaCO3

    If they can't/won't give you the information, you can get your water tested at Ward Labs for less than $30 IIRC.
     
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  5. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    I remember from another post that you build your water from RO or distilled. Is this formula you use the same each time?
     
  6. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Incidentally, one thing that caught my eye is that the instructions say for the yeast pitch, in bold type and everything, "DO NOT REHYDRATE". Anyone have a clue as to why?
     
  7. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    I do build from distilled. But all my water profiles are different, depending on style and sometimes also on goals within a style.
     
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  8. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    They probably don't want you to undo what they see as the "ideal" condition the yeast were in just before drying. I haven't used dry yeast often, but I always rehydrate. If you don't, you'll lose about half the cells due to the shock of introducing the dried yeast directly to the wort.
     
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  9. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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  10. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Yeah, when I've used dry, I've rehydrated. I have some WL001 in the fridge, but using rehydrated S-05 is good too.
     
  11. Theheroguy

    Theheroguy Initiate (0) Jun 29, 2012 Maryland

    I use dry yeast almost exclusively. If a yeast is marketed as direct pitch or has direct pitching instructions I don't rehydrate. I have no noticed any appreciable decrease in beer quality. I use yeast nutrient and aerate my wort by shaking/stirring A LOT once it is under 80* F. You should be fine direct pitching.
     
  12. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Found this on BrewersFriend.com

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  13. GreenKrusty101

    GreenKrusty101 Initiate (0) Dec 4, 2008 Nevada

    So...you were just sauntering through the LHBS and you bought a BIAB kit...was it next to the cash register? .....yeah, right : )
     
  14. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    Actually, no. It was on the bottom shelf where they keep their extract kits. And I'm a definite sauntererererer.
     
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  15. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Your Water company should be able to provide you with a water report including mineral content for the water you receive (based upon the source they use for your house/neighborhood). My water company mailed one to me, the report was titled Laboratory Report. I called my water company and asked to speak to a water scientist and he arranged for me to receive a copy of this report.

    Your other option is to send some of your tap water to Wards Labs and have them test it for you. Go to: https://producers.wardlab.com/default.aspx?ReturnUrl=/ and click on the Homebrewers tab.

    Cheers!
     
  16. ronobvious2

    ronobvious2 Initiate (0) Aug 24, 2010 Tennessee

    From the "Ask and ye shall receive" dept:

    Kelly,

    We have the water tested especially for these parameters because we get a lot of questions from home brewers!

    Our test results, as of 1/28/2015, are:
    Chloride 12.0 mg/L
    Sulfate 22.0 mg/L
    Alkalinity (mg/L as CaCO3) 82 mg/L
    Total Hardness (mg/L as CaCO3) 120 mg/L
    Calcium Hardness 96.0 mg/L
    Magnesium Hardness 27.0 mg/L
    Aluminum <0.10 mg/L
    Calcium 38.0 mg/L
    Magnesium 6.5 mg/L
    Sodium 12.0 mg/L

    Ok, I asked, I received. Now for some experienced interpretation? :-D
     
  17. VikeMan

    VikeMan Grand Pooh-Bah (3,067) Jul 12, 2009 Pennsylvania
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    The good news is that with some modification (dilution with RO/distilled and/or salt/acid additions), you can build water from that starting point for just about any style/recipe. Many people aren't so lucky. Really, you could use that water "as is" for many recipes, but for the most control over mash pH and flavor, you'd need to modify.

    Have you read the water knowledge pages at the Bru'nwater site yet? I'd recommend reading those, followed by @utahbeerdude's white papers. And if you're not already using a brewing tool that includes water calculations, I'd look into that.
     
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