Best All Around Brewery?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by floridadrift, Mar 30, 2015.

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Best All Around Brewery? (Bottles, cans, styles, releases, consistency)

  1. Cigar City Brewing

    6.2%
  2. Toppling Goliath

    3.8%
  3. The Bruery

    5.4%
  4. Stone

    15.0%
  5. Dogfish Head

    4.6%
  6. Firestone Walker

    26.5%
  7. Mikkeller

    0.8%
  8. Founders

    34.6%
  9. Clown Shoes

    2.7%
  10. Prairie

    0.4%
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  1. gopens44

    gopens44 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,560) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    Really? What are they canning? I'd love to get Prima Pils in cans if that is indeed one of them. Hop Devil and Dirt Wolf would rock in cans as well.
     
  2. gopens44

    gopens44 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,560) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    Despite my argument for Victory, I voted Stone as well (Victory wasn't offered). Based on what the options were, I felt Stone exemplified "all around" better than the others. I may also be taking "all around" to a different length than the OP. I would still give Victory an edge over Stone though. It's the lager thing that I am getting hung up on (to best of my memory, I cannot recall any Stone lager -surprisingly enough, not even a marzen). What having so many high rated styles means to me is that the brewery is accessible to a wider range of drinker. So accessible styles, good distro, consistent quality and great prices. That's my opinion of "all around".
     
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  3. mrjmann

    mrjmann Initiate (0) Feb 10, 2014 Indiana
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    Three floyds for IPA's, CCB for stouts and porters, and almanac for sours
     
  4. HopBackGorilla

    HopBackGorilla Initiate (0) Feb 13, 2015 New York

    Lagunita's --By a lot of $ and beer
     
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  5. Sludgeman

    Sludgeman Grand Pooh-Bah (3,356) Aug 17, 2012 District of Columbia
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  6. Kadonny

    Kadonny Pooh-Bah (2,616) Sep 5, 2007 Florida
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  7. PSU_Mike

    PSU_Mike Initiate (0) Sep 6, 2013 Pennsylvania

    Firestone is the best brewery in the US. They make exemplary beers across all styles, they are reasonably priced, and they have an excellent and growing distribution channel. No other brewery in the US can make the same claims to the same degree.
     
  8. HoppedChef84

    HoppedChef84 Initiate (0) Mar 13, 2015 Rhode Island

    Where's plank road?!?
     
  9. newyork326

    newyork326 Initiate (0) Jun 23, 2013 Virginia

    Lagunitas should have been on there. They have a massive variety of beer and are readily available just about everywhere. Don't get me wrong there are other breweries that make a better beer, but those are know for like 1 or 2. I can honestly say I have never had a beer from Lagunitas that I haven't liked.
     
  10. tigg924

    tigg924 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,076) Apr 30, 2008 Massachusetts
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    Of the choices, I would say Firestone. However Bells and Sly Fox immediately jumped to mind.
     
  11. miketd

    miketd Initiate (0) Mar 2, 2006 Ohio

    None of the above
     
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  12. xpertskir

    xpertskir Initiate (0) Feb 11, 2010 West Virginia

    If a brewery is not involved in alternative fermentations(brett and/or bacteria) they cannot be the best all around, that drops many of your original list.

    Russian River, Firestone Walker, Cigar City, Allagash are some of the best across all styles with a very large style diversity also in play.
     
  13. Ricelikesbeer

    Ricelikesbeer Maven (1,433) Nov 29, 2006 Colorado
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    My vote was Firestone, but I think the Bruery and Stone wouldn't be far behind. I'd also def. give a nod to Avery- their mastery of hoppy beers, belgians, barrel aged beers, sours, and ultra high ABV beers are too good to ignore.
     
  14. Dansac

    Dansac Pundit (912) Dec 6, 2014 California
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    Let's see, HF has made wild ales, stouts, porters, IPAs, pales, barleywines, pilsners, saisons, grissettes, brown ales, old ales (Peleg), wheat beers...

    They don't do belgian-trappist styles, of course! But I'd say they are pretty wide ranging. Yet it's true that their focus is on Farmhouse ales, wild ales, IPAs, and barrel aged 'dark' beers.
     
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  15. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    The answer is BBC followed by new Belgium. That's why they are so goddamned huge. They do everything listed, and do it consistently well. While many here will disagree, it is true. They both can, they both bottle. Both breweries have huge style portfolios, and play with non-traditional fermentations as well.
     
  16. TheeWalrusHunter

    TheeWalrusHunter Initiate (0) Aug 23, 2013 Oregon

    I completely disagree. But I just look at the stats differently. They are an pale ale (IPA, Pale), Farmhouse, and Stout Factory.

    Yes they have made a brown ale, an old ale, a couple wild ales, 1 barley wine (which is basically a heavy pale ale), a couple porters (which are stouts), 1 pilsner

    They don't play in two very large spaces: German style ales and lagers and Traditional Belgian style beers. This is like 50 different styles.

    For reference:
    HF has made 20 differently styles
    FW has made 33
    Breakside Brewing who has only been around for 3 years or so has made 43 different styles.
    Stone has made 50+
    Deschuttes has made 64+



    I am not disagreeing that HF is not amazing or do what they do well. But lets call a spade a spade - they focus on 3 styles more or less. This is not a bad thing. I think this is a great thing. Breweries need to focus on what they do well.


    But saying HF does all styles well is misspeaking, because they do less than 20% of all styles.



    ...and yes I extrapolate one minor sentence into a whole rebuttal. Because I care too much about semantics.
     
  17. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I love HF and think they do no wrong. That said, their scale is tiny. I don't think it's a fair comparison to lump them in with places producing beers designed to supply even a whole state...let alone 1/2 the country.
     
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  18. Dansac

    Dansac Pundit (912) Dec 6, 2014 California
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    You're right, although I do think they have made enough wild ales to say they are also focused on that part of the game.

    It's true that I was being hyperbolic when saying they do everything well. But I think no one does so many things so well. The only exception being Firestone Walker, and Maybe SARA. I also didn't think Aaron was a 'really big PA' though!

    But yes, they have their focuses, you're right.
     
  19. Dansac

    Dansac Pundit (912) Dec 6, 2014 California
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    Depends on what we're talking about. We're talking just who makes overall the best beer, without considerations of distribution, size and so on. If the latter comes into play, I don't think anyone can compete with Firestone Walker.
     
  20. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    If there's no scale involved, the best might very well be this place: http://drydockbrewing.com/about-us/awards
    They have the most hardware of anyone in the last few years. That said, I wouldn't put them up there with the FW's, Victory's, and Stone's of the world either.
     
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