NH Growler Bill

Discussion in 'New England' started by Auror, Feb 11, 2015.

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  1. beergrrl

    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

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    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    If you are near Concord, the hearing is now!
     
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    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    Word is that the subcommittee suggested OTP (Ought to Pass) rather than ITL (Inexpedient to Legislate)
     
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  4. Auror

    Auror Pooh-Bah (1,641) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I couldn't go, but according to people there, it seemed like a bit of surprise to most people there that it was voted OTP. On to the full committee now!
     
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    Auror Pooh-Bah (1,641) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
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    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    SCOTUS-style live blogging the executive hearing:

    Last minute amendment: Liquor Commission requests that they only APPROVE a training program, not provide it
     
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  7. beergrrl

    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    Keeping the 200 beer requirement; specifying 200 "labels" meaning registration
     
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  8. beergrrl

    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    OTP with Amendment, 14-3
     
  9. beergrrl

    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    Next up: House floor vote

    Find and call your Representative ... The brewers of New Hampshire are lobbying hard to keep a monopoly on growler fills. Horror stories abound of poorly filled growlers, which is odd, as right now only NH brewers may fill growlers ...

    http://gencourt.state.nh.us/house/members/wml.aspx
     
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    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    Rep Kermit Williams, HB 554 sponsor, spoke eloquently about how this is a bill for the consumer, and after passing legislation for industry over the past few years, now is the time for a bill for the consumers, who want this bill
     
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  11. Auror

    Auror Pooh-Bah (1,641) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
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    Auror Pooh-Bah (1,641) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
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    HB 554 passed in the House! On to the Senate! Looking more and more likely to happen.

    *Edit* "Baby label" bill also passed easily.
     
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  13. beergrrl

    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    [*crickets*]
     
  14. drocpsu

    drocpsu Zealot (613) Dec 25, 2006 New Hampshire

    Wednesday last week? What happened with this bill?? Anyone know the outcome?
     
  15. beergrrl

    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    Passed the House by a wide margin, on to the Senate Commerce committee.
     
  16. Auror

    Auror Pooh-Bah (1,641) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
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  17. KWilliams-NH

    KWilliams-NH Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2015 New Hampshire

    I'm glad to see supporters of my bill on the forum. I think letting retailers fill growlers is good for both the small brewers and beer lovers, but some small brewers spoke against the bill in the Senate hearing. I managed to get the bill passed in the House despite the small brewers' complaints, but I'm just another constituent to the Senate. NH residents should call their Senator and ask them to support the bill.

    The limitations of sanitation, number of labels, etc. were put into the bill to try to compromise with the small brewers, who argued that their product needed to be protected. But now I think they just want a monopoly on filling growlers. Monopolies always make things cost more, and in this case make it much harder to buy the products you enjoy. Tell the NH Senate you want the freedom to buy fresh beer!
     
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    Auror Pooh-Bah (1,641) Jan 1, 2010 Massachusetts
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    I assume this is Kermit Williams? Thanks for your work on the bill and for working for the consumers and better bottle shops out there. I was at the senate hearing on Tuesday and it was tough to watch the onslaught of local breweries (many of whom were) trumpeting these false reasons for their opposition to the bill.

    Hadn't updated the thread yet, but from the reaction of the senators following the hearing, I would say it's not looking great. As Kermit says, please reach out to your senators, especially those on the Commerce committee (http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/senate/committees/committee_details.aspx?cc=S37) to help offset some of the negativity towards the bill that the brewers (except for Prodigal) offered.
     
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    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    Thanks Rep Williams! Yes, the NH brewers are trying to protect their Monopoly. Unfortunately, this is an illusion. Petitioning the General Court to protect this "monopoly" is crony capitalism. NH "craft" brewers, by their own numbers, sell less than 2% of the Craft Beer sold in New Hampshire, and have an oversized concern for both retailers selling their beer in growlers, thereby affecting their margins AND the thought of non-NH beer sold in growlers, which is competition.

    The US Constitution prohibits discrimination between in-state and out-of-state businesses!

    Maine beer? Vermont beer? Massachusetts beer? California beer? Bring it on. We brew with the best water on Earth, New Hampshire water, in the best state in the Union. We'll hold our beer up to anyone elses. I sure wish the other brewers in this state felt the same way.

    Cheers,

    The Organic Hops Farmer
     
  20. beergrrl

    beergrrl Zealot (523) Dec 9, 2003 New Hampshire

    Retail Growler laws are available in 37 states, including the backwaters of Connecticut:

    http://www.brewersassociation.org/government-affairs/laws/growler-laws/

    What are our large New Hampshire breweries afraid of? Why can some breweries opt-in for Vermont growler sales, but protest New Hampshire?

    [these opinions are mine alone as a beer luvin' consumer of malt beverages]
     
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