Looking to brew my first 10+% beer, any tips?

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  1. larryi86

    larryi86 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,118) Apr 4, 2010 Delaware
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    I am looking to brew my first Imperal Stout with a predicted OG of 1.124 and an ABV of 11.7%. I am doing only 1.5 gallons so if something goes wrong I won't have a lot of beer. I am looking for any tip or advice on yeast to use and if it will need longer than 14 day to ferment, thanks!
     
  2. Sean_Darby

    Sean_Darby Initiate (0) Jul 2, 2013 Florida

    I have always had good clean results with 007. It should finish the bulk of fermentation within 14 days, but you will want to condition it for a few months, but that will all depend on how it tastes. I allow mine to go for at least 3 months. Are you adding anything to the beer after fermentation?
     
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  3. SFACRKnight

    SFACRKnight Grand Pooh-Bah (3,348) Jan 20, 2012 Colorado
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    healthy yeast pitch, use a starter. WLP001 is a beast and does well in a stout. Oxygenate your wort, and be patient with the fermentation. Keep it on the cool side and let it do its thing. if you have a deadline it HAS to be done by, don't bother. Mine hung out for a few weeks before bottling.
     
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  4. Buck89

    Buck89 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,782) Feb 7, 2015 Tennessee
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    Along these lines, if you had access to an oxygenation stone would you ever re-oxygenate (12-24 hours) after pitching? Does this make a difference at this OG?
     
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  5. larryi86

    larryi86 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,118) Apr 4, 2010 Delaware
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    I was thinking of maybe adding bourbon soaked oak chips to a half gallon. I don't have any deadline to finding the beer by, just was hoping to be able to have my carboys free to brew different sooner rather than later. I don't mind if it needs to condition for longer.
    I have been keeping things on the cool side, around 60-65 and I will oxygenate daily.
     
  6. Brew_Betty

    Brew_Betty Initiate (0) Jan 5, 2015 Wisconsin

    Technically, the yeast will make better use of the O2 12 hours after pitching, but most people infuse O2 at pitching time without a problem. A second O2 infusion is something you might want to consider for REALLY big beers above 12%. Not sure what the ideal day would be for a second infusion since I don't make REALLY big beers, but would guess closer to 5-7 days after pitching.
     
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  7. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    Use a blow off tube.
     
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  8. larryi86

    larryi86 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,118) Apr 4, 2010 Delaware
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    I will still use a blow off tube, but a that is a big part in doing a small batch I'm hoping that it won't be needed since my carboy will only be half full.
     
  9. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    If something goes right, you won't have a lot of beer, and that stuff has to sit around for 6 months to a year before it gets really good.
     
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  10. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Ferment on the cool side of the yeasts tolerance. This helps prevent an aggressive foam and keeps off-flavors in check.
     
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  11. larryi86

    larryi86 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,118) Apr 4, 2010 Delaware
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    I am not looking for a lot of beer out of it, but just enough to get an idea of what it takes to go into high ABV and something not so hop heavy.
     
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  12. TheGr8Sarcasmo

    TheGr8Sarcasmo Initiate (0) Apr 3, 2015 Indiana

    I recently brewed an imperial stout using wyeast 1762. It is still sitting in the fermenter and its been there for about a month and a half at 70 degrees. I took a sample the other day though and I really like the dark fruit sort of flavors this yeast gave to the beer. Just my two cents, but using a belgian sort of yeast in an application like this will definitely make your brew stand out.
     
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  13. inchrisin

    inchrisin Pooh-Bah (2,013) Sep 25, 2008 Indiana
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    Hop heavy gets really user friendly when you go past 8%. Usually. :slight_smile: Lots of darker beers have more IBUs than I ever though.
     
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  14. Homebrew42

    Homebrew42 Initiate (0) Dec 20, 2006 New York

    Everyone is suggesting different yeast but nobody has asked exactly what you want out of this beer...so, what do you want this beer to taste like? Personally I like Wyeast 1028 or 1084...but again, it the yeast you should use is going to depend on what you're going for.
     
  15. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Big pitch of yeast is essential, they should be healthy, add the recommended dosage of yeast nutrients to the wort to give the yeast all the vitamins and minerals they need. Give the wort a big dose of O2 before the yeast is pitched. Another shot at 12 to 18 hours is good for the yeast. Then no more O2. Temperature control is key during fermentation, keep it cool to minimize fuels and esters. Ramp up towards the end of fermentation, reaching the top of the temp range for the yeast.

    You can be drinking this in a few months if you have good high gravity brewing procedures.
     
  16. larryi86

    larryi86 Grand Pooh-Bah (5,118) Apr 4, 2010 Delaware
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    Thank you everyone for the advice, I ended up buying WLP007 for my yeast. I hope with all of this help I'm able to brew a good imperial stout. I will probably brew it this week, I figured that I would keep it in the carboy until the next time I am ready to brew which will be at least a month from now.
     
  17. HerbMeowing

    HerbMeowing Maven (1,295) Nov 10, 2010 Virginia
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    Is another shot of O2 still a good idea if the initial signs of fermentation i.e., thin krausen islands ... are visible?
     
  18. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    I think so as the yeast can still be in the exponential growth phase, where O2 helps a lot. British brewers did the double drop to give more O2 in Victorian times, or the Burton Union system to expose the yeast to more air.
     
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  19. FATC1TY

    FATC1TY Pooh-Bah (2,564) Feb 12, 2012 Georgia
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    Yes, in my experience it is. It's usually the next morning, I've got some thin krausen going on, I'll hit it with another 30-45 seconds of pure O2 before leaving. I've found the beers to finish lower, have less esters than needed from the yeast profile picked.
     
  20. Mike_Aguirre

    Mike_Aguirre Initiate (0) Jan 20, 2015 Mexico

    Be very patient while lautering... it takes a looooong time.
     
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