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Need is a relative term. Do you need to do a 30 minute sparge? No.

I do a 30 minute sparge because it consistently made a small difference in gravity compared to the let 'er rip sparge. It doesn't add 30 minutes to the brew day. In fact, the total brew day time isn't significantly different. The kettle is on the verge of boiling by the time the last of the sparge hits the kettle. The slower sparge also reduces the amount of flour that makes it into the kettle. I don't see any disadvantage to doing a slower than let 'er rip sparge.

 

Just to clarify, you are batch sparging?

 

Yes.

 

If increasing batch sparge efficiency is important to you, try double batch sparging.

 

Waiting ten minutes after adding and mixing the sparge water allows the grain bed to settle before run-off.

Seems to me ... ye olde 'mix and roll' would require more time in vorlauf to produce clear runnings.

 

In regards to the original question...keep some ice cubes on hand when mashing

 

I find a small cool tap water addition works faster than ice cubes.

 

Yes, ice water probably the best...but easy to overdo if you are too liberal with the antidote : )

 

Try it next time and see for yourself.

 

What makes you think he hasn't? If you disagree with his statement, why not present an argument, instead of essentially saying, "You're wrong. I have more experience than you?"

 

Contrary to popular belief, I don't like to argue. If it's not enough that I share my own experience, then do whatever you like, I don't care what you do.

 

Yeah, but you didn't really share your experience, did you? You just blew him off by saying "try it my way" without a single word about why you think your way is better. It's like you think you are doing him a favor by telling him he's wrong, but don't feel it's worth your time to explain why.

 

Edit: Nevermind. It wasn't nice.

 

Each batch sparge rests for ~nine minutes followed by a ~minute in vourlaf ... ~ten minutes total before run-off.

Starting vourlaf immediately after mixing the sparge water would not only require more work ... but it would be needless work.

In any event ... even if 'mix'n roll' did work as advertised ... can't see where it would save more than a minute or three during a critical period when there are other important balls in the air.

 

Oh yeah, no need to rush things where there's not a lot of time savings involved. I'm just saying that if you're ready to vorlauf, in the experience of myself and others, there doesn't seem to be any advantage to waiting around twiddling thumbs for 10 minutes, and you can thus save 9 minutes as you suggest. The wort will clear just fine right after the mixing, within about a quart of vorlauf (which I assume is like "normal" for most people!?). If you have more important things going on (not sure what), yeah, no sweat, it can wait of course. If you can complete vorlauf in just 1-2 cups volume by waiting 10 minutes and that suits you, go for it.

 

I'm a mix and roll kind of man, myself.