Inherent Flaw In Session IPA's

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  1. trdtercel92

    trdtercel92 Zealot (703) Jul 22, 2014 Ohio

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    For me it comes down to this. I would choose to drink 4 pale ales over 5 or 6 session IPA's any day of the week


    Yep
     
  2. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    I agree with this 99% of the time. Their are times though when I am at a picnic or bbq where my will power and planning need the low alcohol options to save me from some bad decisions on the quantity side.
     
  3. jojo2112

    jojo2112 Pundit (882) Sep 24, 2014 Pennsylvania

    I find that sessions are tolerable as long as you start out with them. Just don't have a regular IPA or DIPA before switching to a session.
     
  4. RockAZ

    RockAZ Pundit (983) Jan 6, 2009 Arizona

    Actually I find the better path is to drink an excellent IPA first because it smooths over the watery ones that follow,... I have room in my palate for a session IPA with a really good hop nose and can overlook the "thinness" of the ale. So there are a few that are just good enough mentioned up thread, and two more I would like to try out of NJ and MA that don't seem to be distributed out west.
     
  5. racer2k

    racer2k Pundit (895) May 21, 2004 Massachusetts

    Agree that SN Hop Hunter is a great session IPA with tremendous flavor and only 6.2% ABV which is low for an IPA. Another option is to roll with SN Pale Ale which has much more flavor than watered down session IPA's and checks in at 5.6%. Hop Hunter is fantastic!
     
  6. Emmige1

    Emmige1 Initiate (0) Dec 1, 2014 New York

    Two Roads Lil Heaven anyone?
     
  7. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
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    Things change, especially in the USA. IPA here no longer denotes a defined "Style" of beer, it is a flavor descriptor that simply means "hoppy" Brewers hang IPA on almost anything, wheat beers, porters, lagers, low ABV pale ales ect.
    They have a point, as even folks that cringe when they see this probably know what to expect when tasting said beer and people that don't care find it useful when making a purchase of something new to them.
     
  8. AlcahueteJ

    AlcahueteJ Grand Pooh-Bah (3,242) Dec 4, 2004 Massachusetts
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    The highest I've seen for a session IPA is 5% abv. Most are 4.5% or less. Individual tolerance aside, there is nothing sessionable about a beer at 5.6% abv, especially not one at 6.2%.

    For every 1% you increase in abv, that’s a much larger increase in overall alcohol intake, especially when “sessioning” multiple beers.

    Let’s take your standard session IPA at 4.5%, in a 12 oz. can that has about 16 grams of alcohol. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale at a “meager” 5.6% has about 20 grams, or a 25% increase in alcohol. There’s a reason @marquis states multiple times on the forums that he "sessions" true session strength ales at 4% or less, and will never do this with a >5% abv ale.
     
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  9. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    At last years NHC, Jeremy Kosmicki gave a talk on Founders brewing. He said all day is only 50% base malt, adjuncts, car-pils (they use it often in their recipes), and other specialty malts. Which specialty malts and adjuncts and % were not given out.
     
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  10. bub72ck

    bub72ck Initiate (0) Nov 8, 2010 Virginia

    Session IPAs IMO are good for two things: drinking a large quantity or drinking in very hot weather. I'm not inclined to take a sixer of IPAs to the beach all day but I could take a sixer of a good session (my favorite is Pinner). I'm not big on drinking beer in large quantities at one setting and if I do it's probably going to be something from a macro (Coors light or Yuengling).
     
  11. bluehende

    bluehende Initiate (0) Dec 10, 2010 Delaware

    Has any brewery taken the tact to brew a regular IPA then remove the alcohol to bring it into the sessionable range. Using more grain and adding a step I am sure is not ideal, but since the prices of these beers are not any less than most crafts it would work financially.
     
  12. donspublic

    donspublic Grand Pooh-Bah (3,552) Aug 4, 2014 Texas
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    I think if I found myself in a surrounding where I felt like pounding beers, i.e. going down real smooth, I would go for these, but otherwise I am more concerned with getting the most bang for my buck. If I am going to drop $ on beer for home I am more likely to spend $9.99 on a six pack of a regular IPA than a Session IPA if the flavor is fuller
     
  13. Westyn

    Westyn Initiate (0) Feb 12, 2014 Texas

    I think its just the alcohol that you're not tasting :stuck_out_tongue:
     
  14. SoulFroosh

    SoulFroosh Initiate (0) Apr 19, 2014 Maine

    There definitely seems to be something lacking in American brewing.

    Everything is brewed big with high abv, then we get the lower abv alternative labelled as "session" or "summer" that basically has the malt backbone taken out.

    I'd just like full-flavored lower abv beers as standard (like in UK) without it being a gimmicky niche.
     
  15. meb3476

    meb3476 Initiate (0) Apr 1, 2013 Massachusetts

    This is why I drink pale ales instead of session ipa's...
     
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  16. MrDave

    MrDave Initiate (0) Jan 23, 2013 California

    "It's not my favorite thing so it shouldn't exist!!" Some of you dudes are nuts!

    I'm personally digging the hoppy session ales. Fresh Easy Jack in a can and Pinner have been my favorites of late.
     
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  17. joelwlcx

    joelwlcx Initiate (0) Apr 23, 2007 Minnesota

    Why do you people bitch so much about the mere existence of this kind of beer? It's a growing trend, so I'm sure someone is buying them (a lot, in fact, so people must like them too). This thread, and all others like it, is nothing more than "my beer is better than your beer because I say so".

    The americans love excess argument is also horseshit. Just because it's a "session beer", or it's "sessionable" doesn't mean one has to drink 10 of them. Sometimes, one or two is enough regardless of the strength.
     
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  18. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    I'll go out on a limb and say that herein the US, we separate IPAs into American and English versions, and I think because the English/European hops are not as flavorful as American varieties, thus maybe American hops should be the defining character for a true IPA.
     
  19. PapaGoose03

    PapaGoose03 Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,057) May 30, 2005 Michigan
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    Hence, Founders has a 'secret' that is the key to success in brewing this type of beer. :wink:
     
  20. CincyMon

    CincyMon Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2015 Ohio

    Though not my favorite style (particularly for lack of flavor), I have found a few good ones.

    BP's Even Keel was already mentioned at least once and I believe that clocks in @ 3.8 abv. The session IPA that is my favorite (so far) falls a little high at 4.9% abv but it's delicious, Fat Head's Sunshine Daydream. Actually surprised it hasn't been mentioned yet.
     
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