Session IPA: Should it be its own style?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Mark-Leggett, Apr 17, 2015.

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  1. kerry4porters

    kerry4porters Maven (1,495) Dec 31, 2012 Arizona

    You crazy kids and your hopped hopping slang...I don't likkit
     
  2. Mark-Leggett

    Mark-Leggett Pooh-Bah (2,317) Jul 30, 2014 Missouri
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    Lots of good discussion. Maybe they do just need another name without the ipa label attached
     
  3. patto1ro

    patto1ro Pooh-Bah (2,084) Apr 26, 2004 Netherlands
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    Just two points;

    1. Low-gravity beers called IPA have existed for more than 100 years (almost 200, depending on your definition of low gravity).
    2. I quite like the modern US type. Unpissed trousers and arse out of the gutter.

    Oh, and I think they taste quite nice. Three points, then.
     
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  4. Conteacher

    Conteacher Aspirant (250) Dec 13, 2010 California

    Beer is beer. If it is good who cares what it is called?
     
  5. RBassSFHOPit2ME

    RBassSFHOPit2ME Initiate (0) Mar 1, 2009 California

    Gold Jacket, Green Jacket, who gives a schitt...
     
  6. nc41

    nc41 Initiate (0) Sep 25, 2008 North Carolina
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    Had a Carton Boat and it was very good, over 4 Abv but better than any beer in this style I've had from anyone. Case worth stuff IMO, really liked it.
     
  7. blockdude

    blockdude Initiate (0) Oct 30, 2014 California

    session pale ales make more sense no?
     
  8. BowWowWowYippyYoIPA

    BowWowWowYippyYoIPA Initiate (0) Dec 30, 2014 California

    I had a feeling someone would bring this up. Yes, sessionable IPAs have been around for a while, but I'm willing to bet the English versions differ quite a bit from their American cousins, just as "regular" English IPAs differ from "regular" American IPAs. This just bolsters my argument that the sessionable IPAs being brewed in America today should be referred to as something other than "session IPAs". I don't believe that the sessionable IPAs being brewed in America that have popped up in the last few years are quite like any other beers brewed before (admittedly I have not tried every beer brewed since Creation, but I have had quite a few, and American "Session IPAs" are fairly unique in my experience).

    I'm sure there are a few folks on this site that would disagree with this statement. :wink:
     
  9. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    A Session IPA is one of my go-to summer beers, but only when they are done right (and I've only had two of those). I feel like there aren't enough good ones to warrant a seperate style category.
     
  10. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California

    In the UK, the Golden Ale style has been producing what we call Session IPA here for years now. Stuff like Dark Star Hophead and Crouch Vail Amarillo. Since Golden Ale is already well known here as analogous to Blonde Ale and not a hoppy beer, US brewers needed a new name to sell the style, and Session IPA stuck more than the other myriad of terms that were thrown around over the last few years.

    This thread is pretty ridiculous actually. Session IPA has been a style for at least a couple of years now and everyone in the industry recognizes it as such. Ratebeer has had a classification for it for some time now as well. Session IPAs are becoming big sellers for many of the larger regional breweries right now which means a lot of people like them regardless of what a handful of people have to say in this thread.
     
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  11. hopfenunmaltz

    hopfenunmaltz Pooh-Bah (2,647) Jun 8, 2005 Michigan
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    Yesterday I had a Dark Star Hophead, a really nice beer. It would be lost to many on here as it is 3.8%.
     
  12. beerme411

    beerme411 Initiate (0) Sep 28, 2010 California

    Session IPA = More marketable American Pale Ale
    21st Amendment
    Bitter American (Pale Ale) 42 IBU 4.4% ABV retired and replaced by Down to Earth Session IPA 42 IBU 4.4% ABV.
     
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  13. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    And there's another beer called Hophead at 3.6% ABV, from Brewster's which I think just edges out the Dark Star version. I had them head to head recently;
    [​IMG]
    Both of these beers have been around since the 1990s.Nothing new.
     
  14. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
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    Exactly. It's not like something becomes a style because users of BeerAdvocate will it. The site listings will either reflect the market, (plus culture and history) or not.

    This might seem like a contradiction, but I don't necessarily have a problem if the answer is sometimes "not." As a drinker and consumer, I don't frequently make a personal distinction between an IPA and an imperial IPA, but there is a lack of internal logic if this site makes a distinction for imperial and not "session." The only reason why this is even an issue is because of the amount of drinkers that are nearly IPA exclusive... and their desire to compartmentalize IPAs (not that that is unwarranted). Other classifications are permitted to be more reductive without debate.
     
  15. marquis

    marquis Pooh-Bah (2,313) Nov 20, 2005 England
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    The other thing is that other forms of IPA are well established and were around long before Americans rediscovered the hop.IPA has been many things since the early days, it cannot be pinned down as a style because of this but who cares? Do you have to have averything spelt out?
     
  16. Karibourgeois

    Karibourgeois Initiate (0) Jul 28, 2013 Texas

    This is spot on. And personally on a hot Texas summer day, having a lighter ABV beer with a nice hop flavor is perfect.
     
  17. cjohns73

    cjohns73 Initiate (0) Dec 19, 2010 Delaware

    I think you mean IPA Lite
     
  18. bulletrain76

    bulletrain76 Maven (1,311) Nov 6, 2007 California


    I've actually been thinking that if IPA popularity and ubiquity continues, we will need another strength designation to make a complete spectrum that is meaningful to the consumer. So Session IPA at <4.5%, "medium" or whatever sounds good at 4.5-6%, standard IPA at 6-7.5%, Double/Imperial at 8-10%, and Triple at >10%.

    Right now we have a gap in between what drinkers expect in a standard IPA (at least 6%) and what many people consider the top end of the session range at 4.5%. Something like Oskar Blues Pinner at 4.9% isn't a session beer but isn't a regular IPA either, which is why I think they call it a "throwback IPA" right now. If people continue to want to differentiate IPAs from regular pale ales based on the hop character-to-malt balance, there is more work to be done.
     
  19. pat61

    pat61 Initiate (0) Dec 29, 2010 Minnesota

    I think styles are important for people entering beer in competitions and for people selling beer but in the great scheme of things I think styles are eroding and merging with one another around the edges.
     
  20. captaincoffee

    captaincoffee Pooh-Bah (2,218) Jul 10, 2011 Virginia
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    Because then there are 4x styles for every existing style. You have to have a light, regular, imperial, and even a double imperial (talking to the triple IPA folks here). Does imperial pilsner or light bock really need to be a recognized style?
    It is either a pale ale that is a little hoppier than the style guidlines or an IP that is a little lower ABV than style guidelines. There is no reason for a new style every time someone adjusts a standard style a bit.
    On the other hand...I suppose I don't really care that much.
     
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