American Beers = Overly Hopped

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by Das_Reh, Apr 19, 2015.

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  1. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I knew that was a confusing "style" to use, that's why I used it. :wink:
     
  2. Kadonny

    Kadonny Pooh-Bah (2,616) Sep 5, 2007 Florida
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    Hops make the world go round, so the answer is no.
     
  3. basics

    basics Initiate (0) Oct 27, 2011 North Carolina

    That's good and I understand what you're saying, but I said IPAs were the general choice for those getting into craft. Obviously there are exceptions such as yourself.
     
  4. bubseymour

    bubseymour Grand Pooh-Bah (4,800) Oct 30, 2010 Maryland
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    It's very easy to find high quality non-hoppy beers in most craft beer stores. More will be imports from Europe vs. American craft yes that is true as a general statement.
     
  5. Derranged

    Derranged Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2010 New York

    Now you've done it. The hopsters are going nuts! Apologize to them immediately or they will throw their fedoras at you!

    JOKING (Well half joking. I find hop lovers get pretty defensive about the subject).

    Anyway, I see what the thread starter is saying. There's an abundance of PAs and IPAs. Also, even beers that aren't those styles are getting hopped up. However, there are plenty of un-hoppy beers to try. Imports especially.
     
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  6. Das_Reh

    Das_Reh Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2013 Florida

    I love hoppy beers. I don't like when an American brewery makes an interpretation of a traditional style (saison, abbey ale, hefe, etc) and their answer to making it "unique" is to hop the shit out of it. I approach it thinking it will be a traditional interpretation only to find that the hops have completely muted out the other flavor profiles that make that style unique in the first place.
     
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  7. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    Fair enough. Hops are a neccessary part of many style but so uneccessary in others (such as saisons). Schneider Weisse Tap 4 is a great German Hefe brewed with a little extra hops. Try it out if you don't like their American counterparts.
     
  8. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Have you ever drank Boulevard Tank 7 Saison?

    Cheers!
     
  9. Das_Reh

    Das_Reh Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2013 Florida

    I thought you were referring to their Tap 5 for a minute... that thing tasted like old orange juice and Pinesol.
     
  10. PorterPro125

    PorterPro125 Pooh-Bah (1,700) Jan 19, 2013 Canada (NB)

    No, I've only had Tap 4. I thought it was an excellent Hefe. Just the right amount of Hops without being "in your face"
     
  11. aaronhardesty

    aaronhardesty Initiate (0) Mar 6, 2014 Kentucky

    I was really hoping that would happen. Best surprise from some great seasonal variety packs.
     
  12. Zimbo

    Zimbo Pooh-Bah (2,305) Aug 7, 2010 Scotland
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    Its a madhouse! A madhouse!
     
  13. CraftFan5

    CraftFan5 Pooh-Bah (2,264) May 14, 2013 New Jersey
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    I think it's just a matter of managing expectations. I pretty much know what I'm getting myself into when I buy a pale ale, IPA, or DIPA; I'm expecting it to be hoppy and bitter. My issue is when a beer that is NOT one of those styles tastes like it is, because then I'm thrown for a loop. The first time I tried Bigfoot I nearly spit it out. Pretend it's a barleywine all you want; that beer is an IPA. This is true to a lesser extent of Stone's Arrogant/Double Bastard. Those are pretty hoppy for American Strong Ales. I think they're good, but they toe the line of IPA-hood.
     
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  14. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    “…the American (Barleywine) versions are insanely hopped to make for a more bitter and hop flavored brew, typically using American high alpha oil hops.”

    http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/19/

    Cheers!
     
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  15. Das_Reh

    Das_Reh Initiate (0) Mar 25, 2013 Florida

    So they're Imperial IPAs...
     
  16. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Please feel free to contact @Jason and @Todd with your comments.

    Cheers!
     
  17. drtth

    drtth Initiate (0) Nov 25, 2007 Pennsylvania
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    No, they are not IPAs. If I make a rattlesnake stew so that the rattlesnake tastes like chicken in a chicken stew does that mean that chickens are rattlesnakes?

    As already mentioned, feel free to register your complaint with the site owners.
     
  18. fly4food

    fly4food Initiate (0) Aug 12, 2005 California

    American Barleywines, well-aged, are certainly true to style. The truth is, IIPAs are really barleywines served too young. Don't sweat the massively hopped American craft beers.... Eventually, the hipsters will all shave their beards, move on, and we normal beer consumers can have our industry back. :slight_smile:
     
  19. belhaven

    belhaven Initiate (0) Aug 11, 2015

    when all these marginal hop infested breweries have gone as they undoubtably will perhaps we might see a domestic brewery that has the skill and patience to develop a true bavarian lager . the real champagne of beers
     
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  20. gopens44

    gopens44 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,560) Aug 9, 2010 Virginia
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    Have to admit that this reads pretty well if you imagine it being spoken by Darth Vader. Go ahead. Try it. It's kinda fun.
     
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