Possible bad trader

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  1. twizzard

    twizzard Pooh-Bah (2,080) May 11, 2013 New York
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    I'm not naming this individual (56 trades @ 100%) yet but I've got a bad feeling. Traded my '14 Framboos for 1 VR, 1 Huna and 3 growlers of his local IPA's. Got the box today with the VR, Huna, 1 full growler, 1 empty growler and the 3rd one missing completely. Sent him a note(he's been on the ISO thread for over an hour) and have not heard yet. I've got about 24 hours before I can have my Framboos returned to me via UPS....
     
  2. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Is it possible the one leaked and the shipping company repacked it without the missing growler? Check the tracking information and see if there was an exception along the way.
     
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  3. JohnGalt1

    JohnGalt1 Grand Pooh-Bah (3,880) Aug 10, 2005 Idaho
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    I received a box once that the growler leaked and was thrown away... Box still arrived repacked and there was no shipping exception.

    It seems like an awful lot of work to ship all that beer and include the 2x "rare" bottles and purposefully leave out the growler.

    Are the bottles sticky? Does it smell like stale warm beer?

    My hunch is, if he was going to rip you off, he simply wouldn't have shipped anything.
     
  4. twizzard

    twizzard Pooh-Bah (2,080) May 11, 2013 New York
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    Working on a resolution with the trader now but I did put a delivery hold on the Framboos.
     
  5. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    This seems like the most likely explanation, especially since one of the growlers was empty. I had a similar situation with bottles, key bottle in trade was "missing", turns out it must have leaked. Fedex removed bottle, repacked in new box and still delivered it. When I looked at the tracking history after the fact there was an exception.
     
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  6. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    What is his explanation?
     
  7. twizzard

    twizzard Pooh-Bah (2,080) May 11, 2013 New York
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    If this were a 'routine' IPA for IPA kind of trade I wouldn't have cared...
     
  8. twizzard

    twizzard Pooh-Bah (2,080) May 11, 2013 New York
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    He said he has no idea and immediately offered to replace the 2 growlers...I told him I put a delivery hold on the 'Boos until this was resolved and hoped he understood.
     
  9. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Two of them leaked, one was thrown out by shipping company and the rest were sent on their way. No one is going to ship a box with an empty growler, even more unlikely since guy has great trading history.
     
  10. twizzard

    twizzard Pooh-Bah (2,080) May 11, 2013 New York
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    The thing that raised the red flag with me is why would FedEx rebox AND retape an empty growler....
     
  11. mythaeus

    mythaeus Pooh-Bah (2,074) Jul 22, 2013 Pennsylvania
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    If someone is going to screw you, they're not going through all that efforts to screw you out of 2 local IPA growlers, especially with 56 trades logged at 100% positive feedback. The core trade seems to be the big bottles, which you already got. Up to you, but seems a little harsh to hold the shipment for 2 IPA growlers that will be replaced.
     
  12. jrnyc

    jrnyc Grand Pooh-Bah (3,012) Mar 21, 2010 New York
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    Maybe they didnt realize it was empty. Fedex are not beer geeks like us. And if if they did realize it was empty, why would they assume it shouldn't be that way. Maybe missing growler was broke and they discarded it.
     
  13. kbuzz

    kbuzz Initiate (0) Jan 22, 2011 North Carolina

    Similar thinking though... why would someone bother to tape an empty growler...period?? If someone was going to rip you off by sending an empty growler...why bother to tape it?
     
  14. Todd

    Todd Founder (13,518) Aug 23, 1996 Finland
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    OP says this has been resolved.
     
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