What makes an alcoholic beverage a beer?

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  1. tcman128

    tcman128 Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2012 Illinois

    Fellow Beer Advocates,
    Question: What makes an alcoholic liquid a beer?

    Brewing process?
    Ingredients?
    Other?

    My tasting group and I have an argument going. Example: is Small Town's Not Your Father's Root Beer a real beer?

    Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic.
     
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  2. Srkolodn

    Srkolodn Savant (1,050) Dec 26, 2013 New York
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    yeast malts hops water = beer
     
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  3. tcman128

    tcman128 Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2012 Illinois

    So yeast, malts, hops, water make beer only? If adjuncts are added is that ok or does that negate the beer qualification?
     
  4. BMBCLT

    BMBCLT Grand Pooh-Bah (3,427) May 9, 2014 South Carolina
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    It's still beer.
     
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  5. deleted_user_950283

    deleted_user_950283 Initiate (0) Feb 25, 2015
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    from Webster:

    beer


    noun \ˈbir\
    : an alcoholic drink made from malt and flavored with hops

    : a drink made from roots or other parts of plants
     
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  6. tcman128

    tcman128 Initiate (0) Sep 2, 2012 Illinois

    BTW...not trying to be difficult or existential. Main goal is to help settle a bet between my tasting group guys and me.
     
  7. Greywulfken

    Greywulfken Grand Pooh-Bah (5,815) Aug 25, 2010 New York
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    Though beer was not always made with hops... :wink:
     
  8. whitekiboko

    whitekiboko Initiate (0) Sep 22, 2006 South Carolina

    http://www.ttb.gov/rulings/2008-3.pdf

    Section 5052(a) of the IRC (26 U.S.C. 5052(a)) defines the term “beer,” for purposes of Chapter 51, as “beer, ale, porter, stout, and other similar fermented beverages (including saké or similar products) of any name or description containing one-half of 1 percent or more of alcohol by volume, brewed or produced from malt, wholly or in part, or from any substitute therefor.” Essentially the same definition appears in the TTB regulations at 27 CFR 25.11. In addition, with reference to what may be a substitute for malt, § 25.15(a) of the TTB regulations (27 CFR 25.15(a)) states that “[o]nly rice, grain of any kind, bran, glucose, sugar, and molasses are substitutes for malt.”

    “Beer” versus “Malt Beverage”
    As indicated above, the definition of a “beer” under the IRC differs from the definition of a “malt beverage” under the FAA Act in several significant respects. First, the IRC does not require beer to be ferment ed from malted barley; instead, a beer maybe brewed or produced from malt or “from any substitute therefor.” Second, the IRC does not require the use of hops in the production of beer. Third, the definition of “beer” in the IRC provides that the product must contain one-half of one percent or more of alcohol by volume, whereas there is no minimum alcohol content for a “malt beverage” under the FAA Act.

    Accordingly, a fermented beverage that is brewed from a substitute for malt (such as rice or corn) but without any malted barley may constitute a “beer” under the IRC but does not fall within the definition of a “ malt beverage” under the FAA Act. Similarly, a fermented beverage that is not brewed with hops may fall within the IRC definition of “beer” but also falls outside of the definition of a “malt beverage” under the FAA Act.
     
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