Best Easier to Find Fruit Lambics

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  1. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    I think that's the point @Shroud0fdoom was making.

    This. Besides, the Reinheitsgebot outlawing ingredients outside hops/malt/water was similar to the US banning marijuana/hemp, a big box of "business interest" with a pretty bow of "for the good of the public" on top.
     
  2. Shroud0fdoom

    Shroud0fdoom Initiate (0) Oct 31, 2013 Maryland

    At least one person got my point.
     
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  3. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    I was just saying you can have every ingredient including yeast from the right area. but if you didnt brew it in that area its still not a lambic.


    and as to the Reinheitsgebot law yeast was not know to be in beer until long after it was oringinally was written. At this time what they were creating was a spontaneously fermented beer because malts have yeast on them (which i think we all know but i said it anyways).
     
  4. WellRested518

    WellRested518 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2014 New York

    Boon & Hanssens are my favorites. Priced well & easy to find. I do love Cantillon and 3f, but finding them is ridiculous. Every once in awhile I'll splurge and grab some online, but they're basically impossible to find around here. Any luck with Timmermans? I've passed it up quite a few times.
     
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  5. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    Back to the original question. Hanssens will be the best you will find I would say. Timmermans and Lind both are very fake tasting and you can by soda that taste the same, atleast IMO.
     
  6. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    It wasn't entirely "spontaneously fermented", they would generally reuse what is actually the yeast cake, without knowing it to be such, but you're right that they were unaware of the yeast's presence.

    My point was just that the Rheinheitsgebot had very little to do with what defines "beer" in the first place, and the limiting of non-barley grains and non-hop herbs was more about taxation than it was actual "public safety", similar to the banning of marijuana/hemp as related industries (tobacco, cotton, etc) were more profitable to the government, and the "public safety" side was mostly scare tactics with little basis in reality.
     
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  7. theothermatt

    theothermatt Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2014 Colorado

    No. Lambic is not a regionally protected trademark like Tequila, Cognac and Champagne are.

    Any brewer can claim use of the term lambic, regardless of geographic location.
     
  8. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Timmerman's fruit I agree, but their gueuze I think is pretty nice. Not Cantillon or 3F, but for being much easier to find and much less costly I think it's pretty good.
     
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  9. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    The ones I've had are Lindemans-eque. But, like Lindemans, they also have some drier and less juicy beers, too. I'd put them between Lindemans and Boon on the scale of sweetness and juice character.
     
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  10. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Being a protected trademark has nothing to do with whether the product is identical to one produced elsewhere, Cuban cigars aren't "protected" either but they nevertheless differ from cigars produced elsewhere, because of their terroir.
     
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  11. AndyEdgar

    AndyEdgar Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2014 Illinois

    Back to the New Glarus comments. If you want a cherry or Raspberry soda, by all means, NG is a lambic in the same sense that Timmermans or Lindemans fruits are. Fruited diabetes in a bottle
     
  12. theothermatt

    theothermatt Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2014 Colorado

    So can we not brew Pilsners because they should only be from Plzen?
     
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  13. SteveSexton203

    SteveSexton203 Initiate (0) Feb 19, 2014 Connecticut

    for a non fruit lambic i say Gueuze Fond Tradition. and very cheap
     
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  14. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    How common are Girardin's imports? I haven't really seen them mentioned, but I think they're excellent.
     
  15. WellRested518

    WellRested518 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2014 New York

    Happy I passed it up. =]. That was the general feeling that I got about the product. I'll stick with my "wilds". We've got tons of the Almanac Farmer's Reserve up here, currently. Tart, with just a hint of fruit.
     
  16. theothermatt

    theothermatt Initiate (0) Feb 24, 2014 Colorado

    I've seen Kriek and Framboise for less than $8 a 375.
     
  17. GreesyFizeek

    GreesyFizeek Grand High Pooh-Bah (6,026) Mar 6, 2013 New York
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    I think it's just much easier to use terms like "lambic-style/gueuze-style" or "lambic-inspired/gueuze inspired"
     
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  18. WellRested518

    WellRested518 Initiate (0) Mar 7, 2014 New York

    Great brew. Noticed some mild diacetl the last time a had one, but solid otherwise.
     
  19. AndyEdgar

    AndyEdgar Initiate (0) Feb 2, 2014 Illinois

    Damn that's cheap. $14 for a 375 of 1882 here. One of my absolute favorites
     
  20. LehighAce06

    LehighAce06 Pooh-Bah (2,240) Jul 31, 2010 Pennsylvania
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    Not if you want to refer to them as being the same authenticity as those brewed in Pilzen. If you want to brew something that is "pilsner style" they yes. I was actually making this exact point about "lambic style" on the first page of this thread.
     
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