Variety packs - any value in them?

Discussion in 'Beer Talk' started by SCW, Jun 9, 2015.

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Are there any value in variety packs?

Poll closed Oct 7, 2015.
  1. 1. No, they are just a gimmick. If I want variety, I'll buy a few singles or commit to the 6pack.

    4.7%
  2. 2. There is, but I don't buy them because I don't want to commit to trying all of the beers.

    6.3%
  3. 3. Yes, great value. I love the ability to sample a wide range of beers and buy variety packs often

    40.7%
  4. 4. There is some value, but I rarely ever buy them.

    48.4%
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  1. UCLABrewN84

    UCLABrewN84 Initiate (0) Mar 18, 2010 California

    I will only rarely buy a variety pack if I know I haven't had most of the selections. The last one I purchased was SN Beer Camp Across America.
     
  2. Jsteez

    Jsteez Savant (1,233) Apr 28, 2012 Utah

    Not a lot of value, IMO. I usually buy 6 packs with a variety of beers, and if I have a get- together, I'll usually just buy one single 12 pack with one beer and a couple of 6 packs with a variety. The cost turns out to be around the same in the end.
     
  3. zid

    zid Grand Pooh-Bah (3,132) Feb 15, 2010 New York
    BA4LYFE Society Pooh-Bah Trader

    @Sixpoint , My post will contain some opinions you've already read, and some exclusive opinions that can only be obtained in this post. You'll probably only find that some of these opinions have value, but the others can go to company. That's a joke, ah say, that's a joke, son. I keep pitchin' them, and you keep missin' them.

    I wouldn't classify variety packs as gimmicks. I see their appeal, but I rarely buy them. When I do, they typically have beers in them that I can't buy outside the pack. I typically hate such "buy things you don't want to obtain the exclusive one that you do want" practices, but once in a blue moon it works. When stores break open variety packs and sell the contents as singles, I usually go for that over the full box.

    As it's been stated, the appeal changes depending on where you live. When I visited PA, it was the land of variety cases. People in NYC will be less interested... they might even have trouble bringing one home.

    They're especially appealing when a brewery is new to a particular market.

    The core audience might not necessarily overlap with the fussy beer nerd audience. The only variety pack that ever got a decent amount of site users excited was the Beer Camp Across America pack. It was treated as an event. There was a fair amount of negative reaction to the contents, and it appeared to be a logistic nightmare to produce. In other words, I doubt many breweries are too eager to follow in the footsteps of this approach. On the other hand, the main strength of the format is as an easy and convenient (and cost effective) purchase for a group of people. I think many successful packs probably understand this strength. I brought Victory's current summer pack to a Memorial Day party and received many pats on the back for it. Parties are a good way to get a brand noticed (and sampled) by people who might not ordinarily interact with it.

    One thing that's slightly unusual in Sixpoint's case is the focus on cans. There have been many times where I've been to a store that will sell you any single bottle from a sixer, but won't break the packs of cans. The Sixpoint boxes discourage some store owners from breaking them. A variety pack of cans would carry a little more appeal to the consumer because of this.

    One tip: Of all of the variety packs I've purchased, one contained a little freebie (a sticker). Even though the item was worthless to me, it still felt like the brewery was rewarding me with a little something extra for buying 12.

    One more tip: Don't do the "mystery beer" thing. Clearly list what's in the pack. I won't buy it if I don't know what I'm getting.

    If all of those beers were in sixers, you could have bought 2 six packs of each beer instead. :slight_smile:

    When will Sierra Nevada's summer pack hit my area? Grrrr.
     
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  4. HalfFull

    HalfFull Pooh-Bah (1,894) Feb 19, 2008 California
    Pooh-Bah

    I rarely buy variety packs at home(San Diego) but buy them on a regular basis when travelling domestically. I think that they're a great option/price point to get to know a brewery's offerings or to bring to a BBQ/party. And especially if they don't have a distribution network whereby I would know them othewise, so all 4(typically) beers are unknown to me.
     
  5. Bunman3

    Bunman3 Initiate (0) Aug 7, 2014 Canada (AB)

    Any time I get to sample new beer, it's worthwhile to me.
     
  6. SteveB24

    SteveB24 Initiate (0) Aug 29, 2013 New York

    Well, except in my area the variety pack was 15.99 and each sixer is over 10.99, except SNPA. so if i bought to sixers i would lose out on variety and i would pay more. sooooo…. yeah no regrets here:slight_smile:
     
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  7. souvenirs

    souvenirs Initiate (0) Apr 18, 2013 Canada (BC)

    Some of my favourite beers are only available from the brewery on tap, or in a mixed six. I'll take what I can get!
     
  8. mudbug

    mudbug Pooh-Bah (1,762) Mar 27, 2009 Oregon
    Pooh-Bah

    I'd like to see variety packs of a breweries top notch limited supply stuff. I'd pay a premium for that. But I wouldn't buy more than one mixed 12 pack that had regular year round offerings.
     
  9. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    Most variety packs have one beer I don't want so I pass. 12 packs are more common in PA now so I might bite a few times.

    Enjoy
     
  10. Giantspace

    Giantspace Grand Pooh-Bah (3,043) Dec 22, 2011 Pennsylvania
    Pooh-Bah

    I like the idea of a pre mix sixer like the shiner folks do. Maybe a mix six of Sixpoint core beers with one non core in there.

    Enjoy
     
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  11. Phigg1102

    Phigg1102 Initiate (0) Sep 29, 2013 New York

    I usually don't buy the mixed cases, but If I saw Abigail, Resin, and Bengali together I would grab it for sure!
     
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  12. SCW

    SCW Initiate (0) Jul 25, 2004 New York

    Based upon the tremendous feedback from an abundance of users, it is clear that there are a lot of priorities, desires, and wants from different people. However, some patterns have emerged here, and I think its important to try not to create something that caters to all people, but instead try to create multiple items that can more wholly satisfy several groups. This way we won't dilute the concept - and will retain strong individual identify for each offering.

    Despite the different wants and desires, there are some universal things appreciated by everyone. One thing that is clear is people like know what they are getting. The concept of including a "mystery beer" is not desired - not that we were entertaining this anyway (seems like a bad idea). Also, folks want to know that their beer is fresh, so if we do this, we'd want to make sure we package all of those beers fresh and simultaneously, so we can ensure the customer has a variety pack of fresh beers, not a random inventory that was corralled into a variety pack. This will mean coordinating the packaging date of all of the beers to be the same, and then putting them all into the variety pack, and shipping immediately to wholesalers.

    The most common response is that folks would like a mixed pack of Resin, Sweet Action, Crisp, and Bengali. This would allow them to have 4 different beers, 3 of each. This could make a very powerful "hard core" variety pack - a sampler of the Sixpoint core beers, for those who want a solid introduction to the brand, a nicer mixer for a party or event, or simply want a variety of the core beers without committing to 6packs of each.

    Then, there are folks like @JackHorzempa, @chrismattlin @dennis3951 and @gillagorilla who appreciate having at least 4 different beers in the pack, but like the idea of having a new beer or a seasonal in there. This could be a separate pack with a new beers/cycliquid for future release. We could come up with a powerful theme for this.

    Also, there definitely is room for what @GoGators and @Yeah_IPA and @rollom had suggested - a "hop variety" pack that would have Bengali, Resin, Hi-Res, and perhaps one more....to satisfy that hop lover, without alienating people like @Providence who would go for the core pack.

    I think this approach seems best because instead of trying to accomplish all of the objectives at once, you break it down into multiple objectives and can provide value for each different group, instead of trying to create something to please everyone (and then you end up pleasing no one).

    Anyways, we have a great foundation to get cracking here. Thanks, and cheers to all of you who are beer advocates.
     
  13. stickboy1125

    stickboy1125 Initiate (0) Jan 28, 2012 Virginia

    As long a mixed 12 is priced at less than the cost of 2 six packs from the same brewery (ie. $8.99 sixer vs. $15.99 mixed 12), there is some value in there. However, if the mix 12 cost the same as 2 six packs then I probably won't buy the mix pack, especially since there is always at least 1 beer in the pack that I don't really care for.

    I will say that buying some mixed 12's is great if you are having people over, it gives your guests more choices.
     
  14. westlaunboy

    westlaunboy Pundit (882) Mar 31, 2010 Washington
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    Pretty much only variety packs I buy are Short's, but that's often because you can't get some of the beers in any other format.

    I also love the idea of these "concept" variety packs, i.e. a "Deconstructed" beer variety pack or Single Hop varieties of the same IPA like Dark Horse did last summer with Crooked Tree. Haven't seen too many of these around here though.
     
  15. TurkeyFeathers

    TurkeyFeathers Initiate (0) Jun 22, 2014 New York

    Were you disappointed in it as I was ?
     
  16. JimKal

    JimKal Savant (1,213) Jul 31, 2011 North Carolina

    I rarely pick up variety packs because so many of them contain a beer I've already tried and didn't particularly like. I will try them if they have limited release offerings that I want to try. there are also certain styles, if included, that are off=putting to me - namely session IPAs and Kolsch. I have tried the mix-a-six but, often, the beers offered seem to be out of date. One of my pet peeves is the people who strip the beers from regular six packs to make their own mix-a-six - often killing the last six pack available in the store. If I want just one of something I try to find it offered on tap somewhere. Lacking that I'll just pick up a six pack. If I don't like it I can just cook with it.
     
  17. jageraholic

    jageraholic Pooh-Bah (1,632) Sep 16, 2009 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah Trader

    love a great variety pack. sierra nevada, smuttynose, stone and victory all make some great ones.
     
  18. jhavs

    jhavs Grand Pooh-Bah (3,587) Apr 16, 2015 New York
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    For personal enjoyment I would buy a brewery mixed 12 pack only if I would like to try at least 3 of the selected brews. I do often buy the brewery mixed packs for others enjoyment. For example, if I was having people over for a bbq, a few brewery mixed 12 packs could be a great way to make everyone happy.

    I do often purchase mix your own 6 or 12 packs often. I live in a rural area, the closest store (other than a gas station with limited variety) is about 40 minutes away. I like to get a variety of beers to try when I make the drive to the craft beer stores with great selection.

    Smuttynose has had a bunch of great mixed packs recently.
     
  19. costanzo_mike

    costanzo_mike Pooh-Bah (2,848) Jul 17, 2014 Massachusetts
    Pooh-Bah

    By the time a brewery is coming out with a variety pack I've likely already tried some of the beers in the pack - I either have to really like the beers that I've tried in the pack or be curious enough about the beers I haven't tried to purchase it.

    One mix pack that I pick up every year is the Beer Camp - the collaborations are usually very intriguing and that alone hooks me.
     
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  20. BeerBob

    BeerBob Initiate (0) May 30, 2002 Nebraska

    Yum Yum, different and enticing, I go for the value and diversity!
     
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