German craft beer

Discussion in 'Germany' started by einhorn, Dec 20, 2012.

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  1. JackHorzempa

    JackHorzempa Grand Pooh-Bah (3,375) Dec 15, 2005 Pennsylvania
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    Wow. I have never seen a beer bottle in a mug shot.

    I wonder what crime that beer committed!?!:grimacing:

    Cheers!
     
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  2. TreinJan

    TreinJan Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2006 Netherlands

    They serve a Weizen yes, but do not brew it themseves, afaik. Spezial only makes untergärige Biere.
     
  3. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    It's a Bavarian beer brewed in Franconia. Duh...
     
  4. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Ahh. Got ya. Still, I think that even strengthens my point that these places have been going "against tradition" for decades to serve emerging markets.
     
  5. herrburgess

    herrburgess Grand Pooh-Bah (3,077) Nov 4, 2009 South Carolina
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    Germany getting into the limited edition game:

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    Weyermann Special of the week: Cerevisia Michaelbergensis
    - limited edition -

    A hazel-brown brew speciality, based on the models of herbal beers in the mid-ages; exclusively brewed for the 1000 jubilee of the St. Michael Monastery in the World Heritage of Bamberg.

    The composition of fine herbs can be smelled immediately – especially saffron, liquorice, camomile, a touch of smoke and a fruity note which reminds you of mature apples to round it all up. The nice sweetness of caramel, caused by traditionally hand made floor malt in combination with highly aromatic caramel malts harmonises perfectly well with the balanced slight bitterness of medicinal herbs and the aromatic hops. By swallowing, you’ll be surprised by a warming, slightly hot spice note of ginger and pepper. The rustic beer specialty goes well with typical Franconian dishes like Bamberg Onions, bratwurst and to a fruity-sweet desert like baked apple.

    The drink was presented on July 4th , brewed by Dominik Maldoner, brew master with Weyermann® and German beer sommelier champion of 2013. The first sales day will be at the “Fest der Generationen” (festival of the generations) at Michaelsberg. After that you may buy the drink in an exclusive champagne bottle (numbered and limited!) in the “Bamberger Stiftsladen” near Michaelsberg or “Bamberg Tourismus & Kongress Service (Geyerswörthstraße 5) or – of course – in our Weyermann® Fan Shop! 100% of the sales of the Cerevisia Michaelbergensis will directly flow into the restauration fund of the Church St. Michael, which is in danger of collapsing.

    “We really hope to realize the hard challenge of keeping this symbol alive to many more tourists in the coming century so that Bamberg may stay under the protection through angel Michael”, says Thomas Kraus-Weyermann, 4th Weyermann® management generation.
     
  6. einhorn

    einhorn Savant (1,175) Nov 3, 2005 California

    To be quite honest, you can't slight the German brewers who might see a road out of the dumping price scenario. Problem is, it might seem too "fake" for a lot of BA types, which will stain future efforts.
     
  7. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    Weyermann beers were always rare and expensive. I remember buying some tasty beers like an IPA, a Porter and a smoked Weizenbock back in 2007 there-for 5 Euro/0,5l....
    And at Cafe Abseits they were also always amongst the most expensive beers. I remember when i was there and a friend had one of their more exotic offerings, and an older man who happened to sit with us was very sceptical due to its price and not being RHG, while he was sipping at his Mönchsambacher Lager.....
    So nothing new from them,really, I mean they always made "craft" long before it was a "thing" in germany. So this new offering only seems logical to me.

    That is the question, do they only see a road of the "dumping scenario",or do they have a genuine interest in making something different? With regards to bavarian/franconian breweries, I would say the latter is more often the case. Or see something like Haefner Bräu/Hopfenstopfer- they started experementing with Ales before it became fashionable...
     
  8. Domingo

    Domingo Grand Pooh-Bah (4,252) Apr 23, 2005 Colorado
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    I've read about this in a few places. Anyone know how many Bamberg breweries actually brew their own weizen? Mahr's seems to be a definite yes. Schlenkerla and/or Faessla might be others? Anyone else?
     
  9. TreinJan

    TreinJan Initiate (0) Apr 13, 2006 Netherlands

    Spezial is a special case (pun intended): they deliver their own smoked Gerstenmalz (and empty bottles I presume) to a specialized Weissbier brewer and get full bottles of Weizen in return. The Weizenmalz is not smoked.
     
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  10. jonb5

    jonb5 Pooh-Bah (1,745) May 11, 2010 England
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    The Becks 1873 is now being given away!

    On Wednesday, the Hol'ab chain of beer shops are offering 1 bottle free to anyone over the age of 18.

    I can't see any other terms and conditions.

    These Becks craft beers are just sat on the shelves at Edeka or Netto gathering dust.

    They don't seem to appeal to either the "craft" beer drinker or the Fernsehbier devotee.
     
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  11. pthread1981

    pthread1981 Initiate (0) Mar 23, 2007 Germany

    They actually seem to be selling pretty well here in Bremen. If nothing else maybe it'll be a gateway beer for some people to try better representations pale ales.
     
  12. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    As I said, the Pale Ale seems to sell well, Amber Lager and 1873 Pils not so much.
    To my tounge, they are amazingly similar. I also do not get the marketing "Australiens Amber Lager"-since when are amber lagers a typical AUSTRALIAN style?
    Funny, how much attention we give those clearly bland, uninspired brews.
    And still, I am waiting for Oettinger Pale Ale.
     
  13. drmeto

    drmeto Pooh-Bah (2,402) Jan 29, 2015 Germany
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    Isn't Australia more of an Amber ALE country?
    I can't really tell how well those Beck's Beers are selling because the shelves are always stuffed full.
    Even if they were selling like crazy,with ABInbev distribution the shelves would still be full
     
  14. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    The funny thing is, if ANY country can be associated with AMBER LAGER, it is AUSTRIA off course.Maybe czech republic as well.

    And I can tell how they sell because most of the time on the shelves I see,there is no Pale Ale, or only one or two 4 packs.
     
  15. olradetbalder

    olradetbalder Initiate (0) Jan 31, 2011 Sweden

    Haha that is funny.
    My sister lives in Hannover and gave me one of each and I actually liked the 1873 more than the pale ale.
    The pale ale was not a bad beer, if it was a lager, but the 1873 was OK imo.
     
  16. Akerstache

    Akerstache Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2015 Germany

    Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if Oettinger would manage to do a better PA than Beck's.
     
  17. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    me neither,that is why i am hoping-after all, they manage to do altbier,kellerbier and bock better than all bigger german brewers...
     
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  18. Akerstache

    Akerstache Initiate (0) Feb 20, 2015 Germany

    That would be pretty damn cool. Would also make it a lot easier to introduce people to something different without their eyes turning at the price - and make it much easier for me to have an alternative to your usual suspects during parties.

    And I don't mean that in a preachy way, a lot of my friends like the beer I've introduced them to but they think a lot of it is too expensive.
     
  19. steveh

    steveh Grand Pooh-Bah (4,174) Oct 8, 2003 Illinois
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    I have to ask, is this from the perspective of a college student (I was one once and know the budgetary limits), or is it a common trait in the German people to turn from expensive beer? That's often alluded on this forum -- and it's certainly something I can relate to myself, but there are many times I'll "bite the bullet" to try something new.
     
  20. Lurchus

    Lurchus Zealot (733) Jan 19, 2014 Germany

    It's a general german thing, because native beer in general, also really good one, is simply WAY TOO CHEAP......
    When you can get Aventinus for 90cents, Doppelbocks for 70 or less, and everything is way under 1 Euro per bottle, 1,50€ for a small bottle of IPA seems steep to newcomers. Parents, relatives,friends, no matter what age or profession, it is always "expensive beer" for them when it is close to a Euro a bottle or more.
    It is somehow part of the culture. When I say a big 0,75l bottle of nice belgian or french ales for 2-3 Euros is cheap, I am the crazy one.
     
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