Deschutes...Lend us your Cans!

Victory just started canning, but I would love to see 16 oz Dirt Wolf's in the can.

 

It's a crazy thing, that Green Thing. It seems like the right way, but when you look at the carbon footprint it's worse.

 

I homebrew and bottle condition my beers. I usually save my 'commercial' empties, soak the labels off and use them when i bottle my beer. Cans and bottles with twist off caps are worthless to me for that purpose. Buying new bottles costs me about 50 cents a bottle and would add a significant cost to a batch of beer if I had to buy new ones every time.

 

Pretty sure coors experimented with this many years ago.

Enjoy

 

FW started canning union jack earlier this year. They are killing it. Now we need parabola in cans. Tallboys.

 

or something like these
https://www.google.com/search?q=bot...6IDQ&sqi=2&ved=0CDEQ7Ak#imgrc=B-oXgh2KWiVWxM:

 

You make a very good point but I think there is much to recommend cans. I consider myself to be a "Green Guy" and I try to pay attention to the issues that impact our shared environment. One of the things that convinced me that cans were good for the environment is I've read that aluminum that is entered into the recycling stream is, indeed, recycled. Glass may be clean fill but most of it goes to the landfill. You are right in your assertion about the upfront environmental cost of aluminum but I think, think not know, that the backend process has a longer term impact. I read the other link provided and to provided a much more nuanced view of the process. The 95% reduction in energy cost of recycled aluminum is a major factor that will pay dividends for years as aluminum can be recycled many times. When you look at the stats the percentage of recycled content continues to grow. But I don't want bottles to disappear as they are great for my homebrew - maybe the greenest option of all (along with growlers from my local store).

 

Yes please! River Ale in cans would be much easier to actually drink on the River!

 

Am I the only one to prefer glass to cans?

 

I was at Stone last month and while on the tour asked about cans. The tour guide said they were working on their canning lines and that it takes time to dial in the quality. She claimed it took Ballast a year to get theirs right. Sounded like it's coming for Stone.

 

I estimated a budget for a canning line for Deschutes like 2 years ago. Project's dead as far as the sales guy is concerned. Although, they may have found a less expensive source to perform the work.

 

Unintended or intended pun?

 

Cans for the summer. Glass for the rest of the year.

 

As someone that has spent over ten years in the glass bottle manufacturing business I sure wish there were more folks like you that actually look at the data rather than just the propaganda. Recycling glass just doesn't make sense except for the reduction of litter. Better to just crush it right up after use and use it for roads or clean fill dirt. There is no reduction in the cost of material for glass by recycling, in fact it costs a lot more and pollutes a lot more due to the transportation cost of moving the empty bottles. You want to do the world a favor? Crush your bottles back into sand to line your BBQ pit.

 

No.

 

A couple of years ago, Deschutes was apparently almost ready to have beer made and canned for them at Cold Springs, MN, similar to what 21st Amendment does. Glad that didn't happen because IMO Deschutes makes better beer than anything I've seen out of Cold Springs or 21st Amendment. I am content to wait until Deschutes gets its own canning line.
http://beerpulse.com/2013/03/deschutes-mirror-pond-pale-ale-coming-to-cans-012/

 

Ha, completely unintended. Even I'm not that cheesy!

 

I'm loving the craft beer can revolution that has been taking place over the past few years but I am ready for even more brewers to step up to the plate.

 

Are there some good articles to read about recycling aluminum cans vs glass bottles. I prefer to make the environmentally better choice.

 

See the link posted by RiO earlier in the thread. It has a link to an article doing a comparison presenting opposite points of view. As with most things the answer is somewhat nuanced. There is a wealth of information available when you do a web search. I am persuaded that if you actually recycle your cans that they are the better choice despite the upfront heavy impact of mining. Most bottles and a lot of paper wind up in our landfills. Aluminum demands a high price on the recycle market and gets recycled due to that price. Life cycle calculations can vary based on the percentage of aluminum that is actually recycled. While I don't have it before me, the latest article I read indicated that the percentage of aluminum be recycled continues to grow and the energy cost of recycling is a small fraction of the energy cost of raw ore. If you decide to choose cans just be sure to recycle them.